On Feb 20, 2008, at 5:05 AM, Bob Paddock wrote: > On Tuesday 19 February 2008 06:36:02 pm Robert Vassar wrote: > >> I regard PIC chips as something to be avoided. Horrible little >> architecture that should have died back in the 70's. It gained a >> foothold with hobbyists due to the ease with which they can be >> programmed. > > The PIC gained a foothold due to Motorola, not Hobbyists. >
I'm sure you'll agree that there's a difference between: "gained a foothold with hobbyists" and "gained a foothold because of hobbyists". Point being, that at one time it was much easier to flash program a PIC on your kitchen counter than it was to program a '51. > > Almost all AVR's do have bootloader abilities, but you do have > to get the bootloader code in there with a programmer > the first time around. True. But that could be said of most flash uC's. Several of the '51 variants come with a bootloader from the factory. Sadly, I believe one of my favorites, the AT89C51ED2 is no longer available in 40 PDIP. (Yea... I know... Long past time to go SMD...) Rob _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
