[email protected] skrev:
Time-nuts,
this post wouldn't be merely speculative, I have an actual
interest in knowing if what I'm going to ask is possible.
As it has already been discussed here, crystals may jump in
frequency. If I recall, about 20% of good quality crystals are
prone to jumping, but a crystal that used to jump might not
jump anymore, a crystal that never jumped might jump in the
future, and so on.
To the best of my knowledge, it is due to strain defects which releases
themselfs. Annealing is used to reduce stress. I am sure we have some
that could comment on it's use in (deep) space programmes.
The trace of a disciplined (atomic or GPS) jumping crystal
shows spikes (because it is soon steered), while the trace of
its control voltage shows permanent changes in level.
Well, I thought it is legitimate to assume that orbiting
crystals, namely the ones disciplined by caesium aboard GPS
satellites, are not extraneous to the issue.
And here is the question: may a time-nuts grade equipment
detect this?
The answer would not be simple. In the majority of cases we
get from our multichannel GPSDO the 1 PPS pulse. How may the
pulse be affected by the spike in frequency of a single
orbiting crystal?
I know this list is also populated by qualified professionals,
and hope to get for sure one of the following conclusions:
-crystals aboard GPS satellites do not jump at all;
I think there could be some interesting articles to dig up on that.
I expect them to be conservative and use annealed crystals, so if there
is jumps, they are rare occasions.
I know that effects of the time-pieces have been reported.
You should recall that there is several individual clocks. I expect the
telemetry data to include a myriad of parameters of the clocks, so an
oscillator frequency jumped should not be missed.
The time-constants of the lock-up loops should give the oscillator some
time of it own before it is pulled back into frequency, so that
short-term deviation should be detectable.
-if they do, time-nuts can't detect this;
-time-nuts can detect jumps, but can't identify the jumping
satellite;
-time-nuts can detect jumps, and can identify the jumping
satellite;
Depends on how you are rigged up. If you have propper L1/L2 receiver
locked to a cesium and do propper RINEX dumping and analysis of the
result, you should be able to see the resulting phase shift-dance when
it occurs. However, you must be able to rule out other effects such as
multipath and scintilation. Multiple observations of the same effect
aids in that process. The resolution available in these receivers should
be more than sufficient to detect such a jump, if it occurs.
Cheers,
Magnus
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