Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Mark Sims
>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:06 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [time-nuts] Using cheap sound cards for measurements
>>
>>
>> Just because the cards have the same ADC clock does not mean that they
>> will be sampling at the same time.  There will be differences in the
>> startup characteristics,  register programming, etc.  that can affect
>> just when the input is sampled.  They may be sampling at the same rate,
>> but the cards could be an indeterminate number of cycles off from each
>> other.
>>
>>     
>
>
> I think that's unimportant, as long as the relationship stays constant (or 
> predictable) over the entire recording interval (many thousands of seconds, 
> perhaps).  You're not really comparing the absolute phase of the two signals, 
> you're comparing the relative frequency of the two signals, so it's only the 
> change in phase that you're looking at.
>
> Which brings up yet another interesting approach.  Say you were to use a 
> digital audio recorder (as a standalone box), sample for however many hours 
> you want to run the test for, and then post process en-masse.  
>
> I suspect you might NOT want a recorder that does compression, so you're 
> going to be accumulating some 600 MB/hr for two channels, but these days, 
> that's no big deal on flash media. 
>
> There's a lot of pretty high quality recorders around (like the Edirol R-44 
> or R-4 and equivalent)
>
>   
If the 2 signals are sampled at different times then there is incomplete
cancellation of the phase noise of the offset oscillator.
This effect increases with the delay between the 2 samples.
In practice the interchannel sampling delay can be relatively long
(hundreds of microsec) with a low noise offset oscillator.

Bruce


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