And started down the dark path you have. You will not have to wait
long before you completely succumb to the dark side.

Jim Palfreyman


2009/12/28 Bob Camp <[email protected]>:
> Hi
>
> Your budget is going to make things tough.
>
> A Thunderbolt needs a triple supply (+12, -12, and +5) to operate. It also 
> needs a GPS antenna of some sort.
>
> The Rubidiums all need a supply and a heat sink. Some of them like the FRS-A 
> need unusual connectors.
>
> They all need to be operated continuously to get the best accuracy. That 
> makes powering them with a shared lab supply impractical.
>
> The Thunderbolt is accurate as a stand alone device because it uses GPS. The 
> rubidiums are all fairly accurate by design, but they would need to be 
> calibrated against something else to be as accurate as the Thunderbolt.
>
> Simple look at it:
>
> If you need ~ 3x10-9 accuracy, then the rubidiums are all fine.
>
> If you need < 2 x10-10 accuracy, then the Thunderbolt is your only choice.
>
> In between those two limits, it depends on a lot of details like how long 
> between calibrations, environment (like temperature), and sources of 
> calibration. Even at the limits I've mentioned, what you are calibrating 
> might impact the choice.
>
> If you have a spare triple output supply already, Then the Thunderbolt is 
> inside your budget. If you do not have a supply, you probably can pick up the 
> pieces on individual auctions with some luck and patience. If you go with a 
> rubidium, look for a dealer who will include the connectors for the device.
>
> One last point: The Thunderbolt *probably* will run for a very long time. The 
> rubidiums may also run for a long time, or they may die 5 or 10 years from 
> now due to lamp wear out.
>
> Lots to think about.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Giuseppe Marullo wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> just subscribed, I would like a quick advice on a 10MHz reference for 
>> calibrating my instruments and for fun. In particular, I would like to know 
>> if you could give me advice on EFRATOM FRS-A,FRS-C, DATUM LPRO-101, 
>> Thunderbolt and such.
>>
>> I would prefer a GPSDO (like the Thunderbolt), but budget is very tight 
>> (about 100EUR), so I am searching old surplus stuff on Ebay.
>>
>> Some examples:
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Thunderbolt-PRECISION-GPS-10mhz-FREQUENCY-TIME-Standard_W0QQitemZ270504461779QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3efb5285d3
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/EFRATOM-10MHZ-LPRO-101-Rubidium-Frequency-Standard_W0QQitemZ270504461780QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3efb5285d4
>>
>> Any caveat, anything I should ask to the seller? Minimal fw version for the 
>> Thunderbolt (2.2 is okay)?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Giuseppe
>>
>> PS: I am in Italy
>>
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