Hi

One thing to be very careful of using doors - the core may not be what you 
expect it to be. Solid wood may be just that, solid wood pieces laminated 
together. Think of it as a pice of butcher block countertop. It can also be 
shredded wood glued together. Think of it as  a thick piece of particle board. 
The first sort of construction is quite strong. The second not so much so ....

Bob


On Jan 24, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Thomas A. Frank wrote:

> Even cheaper and less work than plywood - solid wood doors from Home Depot, 
> laid across a rectangle using 2x4 as horizontals with 4x4 as legs.
> 
> It you use lag bolts (and you should, as nails work loose over time), you can 
> take the things apart when you move.
> 
> My buddy has a few that all his milling machine parts sit on, and they 
> haven't sagged.
> 
> Ask if they have any scratch and dent doors for really cheap.
> 
> Tom Frank, KA2CDK
> 
> On Jan 24, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Bob Camp wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> If you are looking for massive tables on the cheap, you can indeed build 
>> them. Have the local Home Depot rip some plywood to an appropriate width and 
>> glue four sheets one on top of the other. 2x4's or 4x4's make fine legs and 
>> support structure under the table top. I have 16 feet of it sitting in the 
>> basement. No test gear on it at all. Other hobbies seem to have taken over 
>> the entire space...
>> 
>> The only real drawback is that it's a build in place item. You aren't going 
>> to take it with you when you move. There are various versions of that table 
>> scattered all over the US.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 23, 2010, at 7:48 PM, Mike Feher wrote:
>> 
>>> I also had similar problems with my 8 ft tables for my test equipment. I
>>> found at Home Depot replacement fold down legs. I bought some, and installed
>>> them right in the middle of the tables. No more sagging problems. I had to
>>> shorten the legs somewhat as they were a few inches too long. But, have
>>> supported hundreds of ponds for many years now with no sigh of
>>> warping/sagging. 73 - Mike
>>> 
>>> Mike B. Feher, N4FS
>>> 89 Arnold Blvd.
>>> Howell, NJ, 07731
>>> 732-886-5960
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>> Behalf Of John Miles
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 7:38 PM
>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Test Equipment
>>> 
>>>> Another important aspect of the electronic test bench is the furniture.
>>>> 
>>>> I started with the cheapie particle board "fold up legged" tables and
>>>> very soon
>>>> learned they could not hold much weight without significant sagging.
>>> 
>>> If you have the space, you could do what I do, and bolt multiple folding
>>> tables together with 'L'- and 'T'-shaped flat metal brackets.  The idea,
>>> besides adding surface area, is to dampen the tables' tendency to wobble.
>>> This adds a surprising amount of stability and load-bearing capacity.  It
>>> completely eliminates the need to add a center leg, which is otherwise
>>> pretty much mandatory when using folding tables.
>>> 
>>> With cheap folding tables, you don't have to feel bad about drilling into
>>> your workbench or otherwise marring and gouging it.  Every few years, or
>>> when you move, just throw the old folding table away and spend $39.95 on
>>> another one.  Voila, a brand new workbench.
>>> 
>>>> Many industrial equipment catalogs will give you an idea of the
>>>> accessories possible.
>>>> Shelves, drawers, electrical outlet strips.etc.
>>>> 
>>>> An effective infrastructure will allow the test bench to gradually grow,
>>>> as the budget allows.
>>> 
>>> Also, HP/Agilent equipment racks are sometimes available on eBay.  These are
>>> nothing like the relay racks or server racks that you commonly see in data
>>> centers.  They are *stout*.  They're very expensive when new, but almost
>>> free for the shipping when bought used.  I used generic shelving units to
>>> hold test equipment for a long time, but once you use real racks, you won't
>>> go back.
>>> 
>>> An Agilent E3662A/B rack can hold up to 81 EIA units of gear weighing up to
>>> 1800 pounds.  I have three in my living room and wish I had more...
>>> 
>>> -- john, KE5FX
>>> 
> 
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