Hi Jim:

I have samples of two sizes of flipping dot displays, see:
http://www.prc68.com/I/LED.shtml#FD
was going to see how fast they can be flipped using high voltage drive with a series resistor to lower the time constant, but other things got in the way.

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com


Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Hands on digital clock


It seems to me there is a way to make the segments folding so they
could be  changed without removing and inserting boards.  Kind of like
a folding  ruler.  I'll have to do some experiments with scraps of
wood in my shop.  On  a smaller scale of course.
Several years ago, I walked by one of the solar powered radar sets that shows
you your speed on a pair of big 7 segment displays.  It was clicking as the
displayed speed changed so I stopped to look at it.

The segments rotate about the long axis.

So think of flipping the ruler segments over rather than folding them.

Those are very nifty displays.  I can't recall when I first saw them, but it 
has to have been back in the 80s or perhaps 70s.

The display element is magnetized, and they have a coil behind it that gets either a 
positive or negative pulse to flip it. I seem to recall some sort of capacitor and SCR 
circuit was used.  They're nice because they don't consume any power when not changing, 
and can be artificially illuminated as bright as you like.  The "signaling" is 
pretty robust, so you can put the display at the end of a long wire, too.

They aren't very fast, though.  You couldn't display motion video.

But for a time nut?  Sure.  You could carefully balance them for aerodynamics, 
and actuate them with floats and falling weights from your clepsydra, for 
instance.  Some sort of fluidic water level to 7 segment decoder would be 
needed, but that could be very fun to design with buckets and counterweights 
(e.g. you make a 3 input AND gate with a bucket that holds 3 liters of water, 
counterweighted with a 2.5 kg weight)

Hmm, you sort of inherently get a thermometer code from a clepsydra, so you 
need a thermometer to 7 segment decoder.  I envision a giant jacquard loom or 
piano roll scheme, with holes to fill or drain the weights that turn the 
segments.  Air pressure is also legal, I suppose.

It kind of depends on whether you need it to be totally gravity driven, or 
whether a pump/compressor is ok.

(If you've ever seen the Villa d'Este in Tivoli, near Rome, you'd be amazed at 
what can be done with air and water pressure, ALL gravity fed)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa_d%27Este  (which is actually a pretty lame 
description)  google for "villa d'este organ fountain" and you'll turn up some 
youtube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGJumf6m44M is one of them



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