Regardless of isolated anecdotal data on one oscillator, it
is probably not advisable to change the set point. The majority
of 10811 crystals do NOT have a turnover, only a region of
low tempco around 82 degrees.

Instead of that, change the circuit to B-mode and optimize
the heat between the two heater resistors for maximum thermal
gain (you should be able to get 1000). Then change the circuit back to normal.

Rick Karlquist N6RK


On 10/6/2010 6:59 PM, Perry Sandeen wrote:
Gents,

Some on this list mentioned having had less-than-optimal performance with their 
HP 10811 series oscillators.  James Miller G3RUH made a slight mention of 
optimizing performance by readjusting the set point temperature in one of his 
phase detector articles.  He said though time consuming the results were worth 
the effort.

Looking at the schematic it shows that a thermistor was used in a bridge 
circuit.  The final set point was obtained by using a selected resistor from 
the HP chart.  The value went from 1.33K for 80.0 C to 34 ohms for 83.8 C.

Although HP probably selected the best thermistor possible they drift over 
time.  Also complicating the issue is that the drift is non-linear. At that 
time the only other choice for an accurate non-drifting sensor was a platinum 
100 ohm sensor.  While highly accurate the rate of change per degree is very, 
very low which would require complicated amplification.  Because of the 
platinum sensor cost and the associated circuitry that choice would have been 
cost prohibitive.

I suppose if it were designed somewhat more recently some sort of SS sensor 
would have been used.

I don’t know how James Miller did his turning point process but perhaps this 
might point someone in the right direction.

Regards,

Perrier





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