David,

I think Radio 4 on 198 kHz is straight through analogue - no digital buffering with its inherent delays. Yesterday afternoon (1200 UTC I think), I listened to the BBC pips from Droitwich at the same time as the pips from RWM on 9,996 kHz, and I watched the second-hand of my Steiger radio-controlled clock. All three were in exact synchronism - no error between them, as closely as the ear and the eye could tell.

Are there different ways these radio-controlled clocks are synched to time signals? I have never seen any perceivable error between my clocks and analogue broadcast "pips" from MSF, RWM or WWV, so I don't think the synch scheme is a corrective one. I will try keeping one of my clocks in a Faraday screen for a while to see how far it drifts in terms of time.

I know of the other two 198 kHz transmitters at Westerglen and Burghead, but don't know whether they have the same accuracy as Droitwich's frequency standard. Do they carry the same phase modulation as Droitwich for teleswitching?

Ron, G3SVW
Manchester






----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. David Kirkby" <[email protected]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] How accurate are cheap radio controlled clocks?


On 06/26/11 07:25 AM, David J Taylor wrote:
I've got one of the cheap radio-controlled clocks? I was listing to
radio 4 the other day and herd the time signal. The radio controlled
clock was about 3 seconds off. I was a bit surprised it was so far
off. I'm just wondering how accurate these things are.

David,

Be aware that if listening via digital radio (or worse, digital TV)
there is a delay in the transmission chain of up to several seconds
(DTV). I expect you know that already! Use the FM signal for best results.

I was using 198.00 kHz longwave here in the UK. Unless there's some digital processing going on before the signal is AM modulated, this can't explain the problem.

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