Might be worth a read of some of Charlie Rhodes'  columns at TV Technology. The 
latest is "Can Terrestrial Broadcasting and GPS Co-exist in Adjoining 
Spectrum?" 
and is at http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/122176

Over the years Charlie has presented what seems IMHO to be valid reasons why TV 
white spaces - aka guardbands - exist and that terrestrial TV needs them. Same 
applies for GPS and LS. I'd at least agree that the need for white spaces is 
one 
main reason why "Terrestrial TV simply cannot use all the bandwidth it is 
allotted". Of course, my meaning of "use" here is that of "occupy". I think Mr. 
Rhodes would contend even un-occupied spectrum is in use...

Bob LaJeunesse



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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: paul swed <[email protected]>; Discussion of precise time and frequency 
measurement <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 3:45:10 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lightsquared goes Global...

Terrestrial TV simply cannot use all the bandwidth it is allotted. Spectrum has 
been whittled away at least twice. Once to create T-band. Again a little bit 
when HDTV was rolled out. The band needs to be trimmed with a sawzall. 


-----Original Message-----
From: paul swed <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:09:06 
To: <[email protected]>; Discussion of precise time and frequency 
measurement<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lightsquared goes Global...

Scratching the ole head. "TVs a waste"? A comment on the editorial content
perhaps?
But then how does any of that really have anything to do with Time-nuts.
Regards
Paul.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:42 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> That is the "white space" plan. It is still active. It is an attempt to use
> wasted TV bandwidth.
>
> TV bandwidth is a waste. It is not a growing business. However, the MS
> scheme is kind of dumb. The gear would sniff the ether and automatically use
> the spectrum. They should really just refarm the spectrum.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David VanHorn <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:04:42
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement<
> [email protected]>
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> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lightsquared goes Global...
>
>
> Years ago, microsoft wanted to take over one of the ham bands, 2m or 440 I
> forget which, for satellites for internet in poor areas.
> Swatch wanted to have everyone change to "beats" instead of seconds and
> minutes.
>
> Stupid ideas abound, but they usually fall apart.
>
>
> ________________________________________
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>        Seems to me such an issue only increases the chance of
> Lightsquared's
> whacked-out ideas getting shot down in flames (as they should be).
>
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