Hi Mike,

Several years ago there was some discussion about using a FM carrier as a calibrating signal by driving close to a tower supporting a FM broadcast antenna then adjusting the counter's time base so the display agrees with the station's assigned frequency. The fellow suggesting this soon found out that this was not such a great idea.

One of the most annoying problems I have in measuring FM stations is the time involved. I need to catch the carrier, as the FCC refers to it, at rest. This can take quite a while and I have to stare at my equipment and not blink. In the olden days I could call the station at 2 or 3 o:clock on Monday mornings during transmitter maintenance or get them to remove modulation for 2 or 3 seconds by having all faders down at the end of a song in order to get a quiet carrier. Now-a-days, if the PD thinks there's even 1 second of silence at 2 AM, all the listeners will all tune out never to come back, they will not show up in the ratings, the station will go bankrupt and they'll all lost their jobs and of course it will be his fault for allowing it. It's not the FM modulation that's so much the problem as it is the exciter's AFC loop chasing modulation. A real good demonstration of this is to beat the incoming FM carrier against a stable signal generator. If you were to suddenly remove the modulation, say pull the BNC off of the composite input, you would hear the beat flop back and forth until it settles. How fast and how much it settles depends on the particular exciter and its AFC loop constants. Some settle almost instantly, other's may take 2 to 3 seconds regardless of the reference source.

As you know, with FM exciters there is a problem with truly locking the carrier (FMO) to any reference. Definitely you can tie the exciter's internal reference to a GPS reference and lock that part of the exciter. The real problem comes when you try and "hard lock" the FMO portion of the exciter to that reference. The FMO has to be able to be "springy" enough to be modulated by the lowest modulating frequency; that was the whole point of moving away from crystal controlled FMO's or multiplying a bazillion times back in the 40's and 50's. If you were to hard lock the FMO to the reference it would almost be the same as simply replacing the FMO with a crystal controlled oscillator. I know there are some folks who are field modifying the time constants and going to a lower impedance to drive the varactor modulator diodes to reduce modulation peak overshoot, but you can only take that so far before you lock the modulation right out of the beast.

As far as synchronizing the audio between the digital and analog signals goes... Well, I have a Radio Shack Accurian, a Radioosphphy something or other, and a Boston acoustics receiver. None of them agree in the delay through them in spite of using iBiquitiy's software - and the difference can be quite noticeable. I suppose the best you can do is to go by the delay in your IBOC modulation monitor and hope for the best. A buddy of mine goes by his PD's radio which results in the best sleep at night.

I realize my two diatribes have been sort of off topic for the group, but since the subject of using broadcast signals as references had come up I though I'd squeak up from my normal lurking.

Burt, K6OQK
www.biwa.cc


At 07:39 AM 10/13/2011, [email protected] wrote
We don't have any AM stations, but the big reason for GPS locking of
our FM stations for IBOC is to stabilize diversity delay.

The Analog component of the audio for HD-1 is delayed to synchronize
with the digital components so that if the digital carriers are lost, an
IBOC receiver will "blend" back to Analog. If it's not synchronized with
in a few samples, you hear a jump in the audio.

Mike - Vermont Public Raido Engineering

Burt I. Weiner Associates
Broadcast Technical Services
Glendale, California  U.S.A.
[email protected]
www.biwa.cc
K6OQK

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