On 2/9/12 8:23 AM, Chris Albertson wrote:
I think it's odd that all these "science" projects are NOT doing any
science.   They sound like engineering to me.

So you build a neat mouse trap?  That is not science unless you have a
theory about mouse behavior and your trap is intended to test the
theory.    Around here we do have these projects but we call them
"engineering" and they are judged by engineers.


It's the "international science and engineering fair", so both kinds show up.

The line between applied science and engineering is pretty fuzzy.

Is a verification of theoretical coupling between pendulums a science question or engineering question? What about developing a better model to remove tidal effects on the pendulum? A lot of modern science is coming up with ever more precise and descriptive models, particularly if the model is not purely phenomenological, but is based on the underlying physics.



But even for engineering, there has to be significant "scientific method" applied. Research in the field to understand the state of the art. Formulation of a design/plan, and the expected performance of the device (aka "the hypothesis"), quantitative tests, etc.


Distinguish between "craftsmanship" and "engineering".. Even in the engineering categories, a mouse trap wouldn't necessarily do very well unless it there was something novel about it AND there were decent predictions of performance ahead of time that could be tested by the thing that gets built.

Lots of "I built a robot" kinds of projects that don't do well, even if well constructed. "I built a robot that climbs trees using a technique nobody has ever used before" would do better. "I built a robot that climbs trees using a method that improves on how monkeys climb trees" might do even better, depending.


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