Perry you mean like the 10' X 10' loop I put up? It has about 800 ft of wire. Brang the daytime signal fro 30 uv to an easy 60 +. Compared to a 2.5 ft loop. Yes higher power would be good. Regards paul
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Perry Sandeen <sandee...@yahoo.com> wrote: > GM List, > > What has not been mentioned so far is national security needs of the > democratic nations of the world for uninterrupted accurate time/frequency > information that is not subject to interference or destruction by those > nations diametrically opposed to personal freedom. > > The United States GPS system is an unparalleled success providing > inexpensive time and frequency standards worldwide and it is relied on for > innumerable critical tasks. > > But it requires using satellites. They are subject to destruction or > degradation from the ground over the sovereign territory by those rouge > states that would be so inclined. The ability to destroy a satellite from > the earth has already ben demonstrated by one nation. There are numerous > reports of shall we say *Malicious Tinkering* on other satellites. > > Setting aside the enormous expense, technical difficulties such as the > need for sophisticated and extremely limited amount of rocket launches > available make the system unsustainable to GPS satellites continued > destruction or degradation from a land based source. > > The need for a strong viable redundancy is totally unfathomed upon those > in the current applicable leadership of the US government. One proof of > this was the shutting down of Loran C to save $35 M a year in a spending > amount of several trillion dollars a year. > > But Loran C gave us the best and cheapest redundant alternative to GPS and > perhaps might be revived. > > A viable WWVB signal, while a very poor third choice, provides an > alternate backup for GPS and in a strange way that could provide protection > at least for the USA GPS system. Here’s why. It still is very difficult > and expensive to damage/destroy satellites. That there are viable > alternatives based on unassailable sovereign territory may discourage the > rogue states from making such an effort. > > WWVB has a historically transmitted power of 50KW. This is the maximum AM > broadcast band signal transmission power allowed in the USA IIRC for about > 75 years. NIST sates the WWVB antennas having efficiencies of around 57 > per cent. > > Improved transmitting tube technology would easily allow more output > power. For example Riydah, Saudi Arabia transmits 2 MW on 1201 KHz and is > heard often in North America with a R-390A receiver. > > So a massive increase from 50KW to say for example to 500KW and or the > relocation of the transmitter and antennas to a more geographical central > U.S. state location (such as Iowa) could extend the 100 micro-volt per > meter signal level radiation pattern over the entire western hemisphere and > provide a high enough micro-volt per meter signal that receivers could > phase lock on the signal in North America and would not be subject to > problems of diurnal shift or the new modulation scheme. > > Baring an improved WWVB signal strength us time nuts may be forced to > install 20 to 30 ft. loop antennas when the new system is finalized for an > adequate signal. > > Regards, > > Perry Sandeen > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.