There are thermal pads that are thermally conductive. You typically see them in laptops and, oddly, optical drives. They're usually one or two mm thick and very soft and squishy. Pull the bottom plate off any full-size optical drive and you'll probably find one or two pieces. I see lots of them on the auction site, but I have no personal experience with those. It looks like there's at least one or two that are available in large pieces and I saw thicknesses from 0.4mm up to 4.0mm.

I wouldn't expect these to move heat nearly as well as a thin layer of thermal grease (which is itself a thermal insulator), but for some applications it works and is the only practical solution.

Ed

On 8/27/2012 10:12 AM, Bob Camp wrote:
Hi

The pad stuff is normally an insulator. It's not very stable, so there may
be better alternatives.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] newbie question Thunderbolt supply

There are components and traces.
Bert
In a message dated 8/27/2012 10:10:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

Are  these thermal pads temp conductive or insulative?  If you want  heat
dissipation why not use the readily available thermal grease used  for
semiconductor mounting? Cheap and not really messy if applied  correctly

jerry

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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 9:38 AM
To:  [email protected]
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] newbie question Thunderbolt  supply

Thank you. Will look for it here under thermal  pad.
Bert


In a message dated 8/27/2012 8:08:30 A.M. Eastern  Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

Here in  Europe  Farnell has the 3M thermal pad in sheets (105x150mm)...

On Mon,   Aug 27, 2012 at 12:48 PM, ew <[email protected]>   wrote:

Chris
Starting with 3.4 W used by the  Tbolt  my battery version burns 4.4 W.
  Using a switcher do  generate 7  V   4.8 W and running the 7805 directly
  from 14.5 V 6.2.W. I  use like you an IC temp sensor, two stage op amp
driving a fan holding  the backplate temp constant and total  power
goes up to 7.6 W since the  oven has to work harder. T  bolt, switchers
and all regulators are on  the other side of the  3/32" Alu plate. The
AC switcher
is
not included  in  the power numbers. but is also on the plate. Plate is
held
at  40  C.
I am looking for a way to more closely couple the Tbolt  circuit  board
to the back plate and am looking for the material  switchers use
between semiconductor and cooling plate Any one  know where I can buy
it in sheet form?
Bert   Kehren




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From: Chris Albertson   <[email protected]>
To: Discussion of precise time  and  frequency measurement <
[email protected]>
  Sent: Sun,  Aug 26, 2012 12:31 pm
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] newbie  question  Thunderbolt supply


On Sun, Aug 26, 2012  at 3:46 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
Having played  with several  solutions I found the best is a 12 V 1 A
   switcher with the  output voltage increased to 15 V, check the
  capacitors  and  if  necessary replace with 25 V. I laid out a  PC
board that has a  TC7662A  inverter  followed by a  79L12.  Also on the
board is a 7812 followed  by
a
  7805.
  Putting them  in series gives  me good thermal distribution. ....

ne of the  advantages  of generating waste heat like that is that you
can ut the  heat  to good use.  I build a temperature controlled fan.
  It  is ery simple a temperature sensor IC connects to an opamp that
drives  a ower transistor that drives a 12V fan.
As for  the power  supply.  I used a filter that does not drop any
  volts
and
   can't see any RF on the DC using my old 365  Tek scope or by using a
more
ensitive RF power  meter.

hris Albertson
  edondo Beach,  California
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