Hi Mark,

When you operate the 5370A in that configuration you are essentially just 
measuring the RMS sum of jitter of the 5087A output, 5370A input circuitry 
(ZCD), interpolators, and reference clock. I haven't measured this myself but I 
would expect jitter in the 5370A reference 10811 would have the same effect as 
jitter in the 5087A 10811. In other words, you can't tell which one is better; 
all you can tell is the RMS sum of their instabilities. This may be a lot to 
ask but try swapping the 10811's in the 5087A and 5370A and re-run the test to 
see if it's symmetrical. Bruce may also have some insights into the jitter 
contribution of the reference clock vs. the input clock(s).

On your simultaneous measurements -- yes, this is a good thing to do. I run my 
house 5 MHz this way; using two high-end TIC's to inter-compare three high-end 
standards.

Note if your samples are time-synced close enough you can create three data 
sets from any two: namely 1050 vs PRS10, PRS10 vs Fury, 1050 vs Fury. For added 
confidence measure all three pair with TI counters, and see how good the 
closure is if each one of the three counters didn't actually exist. Make sense, 
or shall I explain more?

/tvb

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Spencer" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Best counter setting for ADEV?


On a somewhat related note over the weekend I spent a few hours characterizing 
the performance of two of my HP5370B's for making ADEV measurements by feeding 
the stop and start inputs with identical 10 Mhz signals from a HP5087a 
distribution amp. Not surprisingly they perform somewhat differently. More 
surprisingly the results vary depending on the oscillators used for the clock 
source for the HP5370B's. (I was under the impression the built in 10811's were 
more than adequate enough for this application.)

I've also found that when trying to characterize the performance of an 
oscillator (in this case a disciplined PRS10 Rb unit) making two simultaneous 
measurements using different references and overlaying the results can provide 
some additional confidence as to their accuracy. (I suppose if I had an H maser 
I probably wouldn't need to use both an OCXO and GPSDO at the same time to have 
confidence in the measurements (: ) 

Looking at the phase differences in this case gives me a reasonable degree of 
confidence that the OCXO has not significantly drifted during the first 20,000 
seconds or so and that the HP5370B's are providing valid data.




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