A very good point!

I checked the output amplitude with a spectrum analyzer, a power meter and a scope, the latter with a 50 ohm load to the input. I re-checked the power supply connections and can confirm they are the same as before. I used three different power supplies for the oscillators and two for the heaters, still no difference.
But...

To make it short, your comments helped to get me back on track. Both beauties escaped unnecessary dismantling and are now working as they should.

Actually, the problem was caused by a long-term misunderstanding. I was always wondering why 'HP used simple stranded wire' and not coaxial cable on the 10 MHz output and EFC. As long as I connected them on the bench, I replaced the 'missing' ground connection with a short wired croc clamp between coax and ground. Today I realized that the thin blue wire IS actually coax cable, so I should have connected the coax shield to the BNC ground on my newly built 2x 10811 enclosure. With the new wiring, the output ground had just become much more inductive, up to a point where the nominal source impedance of 50 ohms had increased to over 120 ohms, causing the amplitude loss of some 3 dB and capturing noise.

Btw. the Sprague 6800 uF / 40 V from my R&S NGA power supply has indeed died, but independently of the osc. problem.

Adrian


[email protected] schrieb:
Perhaps a silly question, but as I get the impression that both seem  to
have failed simultaneously with the same fault I'm just wondering  if you're
sure it isn't what you're checking them with that's  developed a problem?
Regards Nigel
GM8PZR
In a message dated 13/10/2012 13:52:46 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected]
writes:

Hi  All,

both of my double oven 10811A's have been running flawlessly until  now
when I noticed that the output power has dropped by about 3 dB  (measures
only 4...4.5 dBm at 50 Ohm load), and the noise floor has gone  up by
about 20 dB, while the frequency is still spot on.

I used  them for various mesurements, so I can unfortunately not remember
what  might have caused the failure. Only the 12V linear lab power supply
that  fed the heaters had developed a completely dead filter cap, so the
feeding  voltage was a 100 Hz sawtooth rather than DC. The heaters appear
to be  still working though. I'm only using the internal heater. They
draw some  700 mA at power up and drop to around 150 mA  each when warm.
So the  oscillators are unlikely to be cooked inside. Something must have
happened  to the 10 MHz output, possibly an ESD issue?

Before I start taking them  apart, can anyone tell what has happened or
what to look for  first?

Regards,
Adrian



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