Dear Chuck, Thank you. Now I have a viable default configuration. I will keep you posted on my results with the values you kindly sent to me and how your software is behaving.
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On Oct 15, 2012, at 7:43 AM, BD Systems Inc. <bdsy...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Edgardo, most HP GPS receivers default to 9600,N,8,1. The Z3801A defaults to > 19200,O,7, 1 > > Chuck. > > > ________________________________ > From: "time-nuts-requ...@febo.com" <time-nuts-requ...@febo.com> > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 11:50 PM > Subject: time-nuts Digest, Vol 99, Issue 68 > > Send time-nuts mailing list submissions to > time-nuts@febo.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > time-nuts-requ...@febo.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > time-nuts-ow...@febo.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of time-nuts digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mouser connector (shali...@gmail.com) > 2. Re: Mouser connector (Joseph Gray) > 3. Re: HP Z3805A com port and monitoring questions (saidj...@aol.com) > 4. Re: HP Z3805A com port and monitoring questions (saidj...@aol.com) > 5. Re: HP Z3805A com port and monitoring questions (Edgardo Molina) > 6. Re: HP Z3805A com port and monitoring questions (Tom Van Baak) > 7. Re: HP Z3805A com port and monitoring questions (Ulrich Bangert) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:18:54 -0500 > From: shali...@gmail.com > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > <time-nuts@febo.com> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Mouser connector > Message-ID: <978ee371-a2c0-4291-a449-e768368f80e1.maildroid@localhost> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Actually they were Digikey part numbers... > > Didier KO4BB > > Sent from my Droid Razr 4G LTE wireless tracker. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Gray <jg...@zianet.com> > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 7:00 PM > Subject: [time-nuts] Mouser connector > > I remember someone mentioning long ago about making GPIB cables with > ribbon cable and IDC connectors from Mouser. I can't find that > information again. What is the Mouser part number for those IDC > connectors? > > Thanks, > > Joe Gray > W5JG > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:30:37 -0600 > From: Joseph Gray <jg...@zianet.com> > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > <time-nuts@febo.com> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Mouser connector > Message-ID: > <CAF7oPz2mmEmr__g=1ltw2og-gqjgtvmwoprvzfbnh4fh-3h...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Wow, the Digikey price shot up as well. I guess I'll ebay a cable. > > Joe Gray > W5JG > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:18 PM, <shali...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Actually they were Digikey part numbers... >> >> Didier KO4BB >> >> Sent from my Droid Razr 4G LTE wireless tracker. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joseph Gray <jg...@zianet.com> >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> >> Sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 7:00 PM >> Subject: [time-nuts] Mouser connector >> >> I remember someone mentioning long ago about making GPIB cables with >> ribbon cable and IDC connectors from Mouser. I can't find that >> information again. What is the Mouser part number for those IDC >> connectors? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joe Gray >> W5JG >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 23:58:01 -0400 (EDT) > From: saidj...@aol.com > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3805A com port and monitoring questions > Message-ID: <11e4.51eccd5d.3dace...@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I think the Z3801A has the 6 channel receiver, the Z3805A seems to have the > 16 channel GPS. > > Otherwise very similar I think.. both have the 10811 DOCXO, and very > similar looking PCB's.. > > Rick, do you know of any other differences by any chance? > > Said > > > In a message dated 10/14/2012 16:20:47 Pacific Daylight Time, > jg...@zianet.com writes: > > Just cuious, of the two 58503A versions that yixunhk sells (Z3801A and > Z3805A), which one has the better performance? I see that the Z3805A > version has two 10 MHz outputs and one PPS. > > Joe Gray > W5JG > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 00:05:05 -0400 (EDT) > From: saidj...@aol.com > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3805A com port and monitoring questions > Message-ID: <1384.5832c676.3dace...@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > Hi Edgardo, > > I think the Z3805A and 58503A are identical, except in the rubber bumpers, > maybe the power supply voltage setting, and the ID string.. > > I don't really care, the three units I have perform much better than > anything else I have, so that satisfies my requirements.. > > In fact one of the units' ADEV can only be qualified by the BVA 8600 o > scillator I have, and I don't know if I am measuring the BVA performance or > the > 58503A because I am measuring right at the specification of the BVA unit.. > Wish I had two BVA's :) > > bye, > Said > > > In a message dated 10/14/2012 15:41:25 Pacific Daylight Time, > xe1...@amsat.org writes: > > Derived question: Will I get better GPSDO performance if I use a 58503A > receiver? Or do you think our units match those 58503A GPSDOs out there? > > Again, thanks to everybody who helped me to figure out about my receivers > and their inner workings. As always, you all made my day. > > > Best regards, > > > > Edgardo Molina > Direcci?n IPTEL > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 23:36:05 -0500 > From: Edgardo Molina <xe1...@amsat.org> > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > <time-nuts@febo.com> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3805A com port and monitoring questions > Message-ID: <364ca970-3def-42d2-986f-d4005b7bf...@amsat.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Dear Said, > > I am having a very hard time trying to guess the communication port > configuration of the HP Z3805A. I am trying with different port settings to > match the PC and using different monitor and control programs. The afternoon > was not that fruitful regarding this. Is there a chance you have the default > port configuration for the Z3805A so I can match my PC serial port > configuration? > > I might be unavailable to respond to you tomorrow during the day, as I will > be at Queretaro with restricted access to the Internet. Despite this I will > be able to read my mail, not respond to it. Hope you don't mind. > > Your kind help is always welcome. Thanks. > > Regards, > > > > Edgardo Molina > Direcci?n IPTEL > > www.iptel.net.mx > > T : 55 55 55202444 > M : 04455 20501854 > > Piensa en Bits SA de CV > > > > Informaci?n anexa: > > > > > CONFIDENCIALIDAD DE INFORMACION > > Este mensaje tiene car?cter confidencial. Si usted no es el destinarario de > este mensaje, le suplicamos se lo notifique al remitente mediante un correo > electr?nico y que borre el presente mensaje y sus anexos de su computadora > sin retener una copia de los mismos. Queda estrictamente prohibido copiar > este mensaje o hacer usode el para cualquier prop?sito o divulgar su en forma > parcial o total su contenido. Gracias. > > > NON-DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION > > This email is strictly confidential and may also be privileged. If you are > not the intended recipient please immediately advise the sender by replying > to this e-mail and then deleting the message and its attachments from your > computer without keeping a copy. It is strictly forbidden to copy it or use > it for any purpose or disclose its contents to any third party. Thank you. > > > > > > On Oct 14, 2012, at 11:05 PM, saidj...@aol.com wrote: > >> Hi Edgardo, >> >> I think the Z3805A and 58503A are identical, except in the rubber bumpers, >> maybe the power supply voltage setting, and the ID string.. >> >> I don't really care, the three units I have perform much better than >> anything else I have, so that satisfies my requirements.. >> >> In fact one of the units' ADEV can only be qualified by the BVA 8600 o >> scillator I have, and I don't know if I am measuring the BVA performance or >> the >> 58503A because I am measuring right at the specification of the BVA unit.. >> Wish I had two BVA's :) >> >> bye, >> Said >> >> >> In a message dated 10/14/2012 15:41:25 Pacific Daylight Time, >> xe1...@amsat.org writes: >> >> Derived question: Will I get better GPSDO performance if I use a 58503A >> receiver? Or do you think our units match those 58503A GPSDOs out there? >> >> Again, thanks to everybody who helped me to figure out about my receivers >> and their inner workings. As always, you all made my day. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> >> Edgardo Molina >> Direcci?n IPTEL >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 22:04:09 -0700 > From: "Tom Van Baak" <t...@leapsecond.com> > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" > <time-nuts@febo.com> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3805A com port and monitoring questions > Message-ID: <4EE1633E9A684759A139231568EAF9CA@pc52> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >> In fact one of the units' ADEV can only be qualified by the BVA 8600 o >> scillator I have, and I don't know if I am measuring the BVA performance or >> the >> 58503A because I am measuring right at the specification of the BVA unit.. >> Wish I had two BVA's :) >> >> bye, >> Said > > Said, > > If you can do without one of your best GPSDO or BVA for a week, send it up > here for an accurate measurement. > > /tvb > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:43:45 +0200 > From: "Ulrich Bangert" <df...@ulrich-bangert.de> > To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'" > <time-nuts@febo.com> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3805A com port and monitoring questions > Message-ID: <8D82EA0D59494001AF273F55F27AF659@athlon> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> There's another telco model that has an MTI 260 oscillator, that I >> think was manufactured in Korea but does not have the Samsung logo on >> the front. I don't know much about that one. > > I do own a Z3805 WITH the Samsung logo on the front AND WITH a MTI 260 inside. > > Regards > Ulrich Bangert > >> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com >> [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von Said Jackson >> Gesendet: Montag, 15. Oktober 2012 00:16 >> An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >> Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >> Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3805A com port and monitoring questions >> >> >> John, >> >> I believe Edgardo bought the reprogrammed 58503A unit (was a >> Z3805A before) from Ebay. >> >> I have the same units recently purchased from yinxhu(sp?) on >> Ebay and Edgardo just confirmed these are indeed 16 channel >> units with true 10811 Docxos. >> >> Explains why they work so great.. >> >> Edgardo, I use GPSCon with these, and mine are all Rs232.. >> >> Mine achieve performance in the xE-013 and noise below >> -162dBc (Thunderbolt eat your heart out :). I believe there >> is no better GPSDO out there presently, much less available >> for sale and at those prices. PN at 1Hz is better than -105dBc.. >> >> I regularly get below 1us predicted drift as shown by the >> syst:stat? command. >> >> Bye, >> Said >> >> >> >> On Oct 14, 2012, at 10:24, John Ackermann N8UR <j...@febo.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Edgardo -- >>> >>> I don't know a lot about the Z3805 variations other than what's on >>> fluke.l's site, which can be a bit confusing. All were >> made by (for) >>> HP/Agilent/Symmetricom, but there were apparently at least two >>> "official" variations. >>> >>> Mine is the Samsung version, which has the same 10811A >> double oven as >>> the Z3801, and a 16 channel Furuno GPS, 2 x 10 MHz and 2 x >> 1 PPS, and >>> dual comm ports. It's still aging in, but it seems to >> perform about >>> the same as my older Z3801A, with stability below 1e12 from >> 1 second >>> on out. >>> >>> There's another telco model that has an MTI 260 oscillator, that I >>> think was manufactured in Korea but does not have the >> Samsung logo on >>> the front. I don't know much about that one. >>> >>> Then there's the one that's boxed up like a 58503A bench >> unit, which I >>> think is not directly from HP/Agilent/Symmetricom, but is a >> telco unit >>> repackaged by someone in China. I'm not sure what's in >> there. One of >>> the ones on eBay right now says that it has a 6 channel >> receiver, and >>> was "upgraded by us which the feature is the same as 58503A". Good >>> luck figuring out what's in that one... (by the way, none of the >>> current listings are from fluke.l) >>> >>> John >>> ---- >>> >>> Edgardo Molina said the following on 10/14/2012 12:29 PM: >>>> Dear John, >>>> >>>> Very interesting. I haven't had the time to compare the Samsung >>>> branded units with the typical HP units. Mine is the >> later. It only >>>> has one communications port, plus 2x10 MHz and 2x 1PPS. As >> soon as I >>>> am done with the late family breakfast I will do some >> testing and let >>>> you know what I find. >>>> >>>> How does the oscillators from the Samsung units compare to the HP >>>> units? Are the Samsung units superior in any sense? Both have the >>>> same GPS receiver/number of channels? >>>> >>>> Thank you for opening my curiosity regarding this GPSDO model. >>>> >>>> Best regards! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Edgardo Molina >>>> Direcci?n IPTEL >>>> >>>> www.iptel.net.mx >>>> >>>> T : 55 55 55202444 >>>> M : 04455 20501854 >>>> >>>> Piensa en Bits SA de CV >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Informaci?n anexa: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> CONFIDENCIALIDAD DE INFORMACION >>>> >>>> Este mensaje tiene car?cter confidencial. Si usted no es el >>>> destinarario de este mensaje, le suplicamos se lo notifique al >>>> remitente mediante un correo electr?nico y que borre el presente >>>> mensaje y sus anexos de su computadora sin retener una >> copia de los >>>> mismos. Queda estrictamente prohibido copiar este mensaje o hacer >>>> usode el para cualquier prop?sito o divulgar su en forma parcial o >>>> total su contenido. Gracias. >>>> >>>> >>>> NON-DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION >>>> >>>> This email is strictly confidential and may also be privileged. If >>>> you are not the intended recipient please immediately advise the >>>> sender by replying to this e-mail and then deleting the >> message and >>>> its attachments from your computer without keeping a copy. It is >>>> strictly forbidden to copy it or use it for any purpose or >> disclose >>>> its contents to any third party. Thank you. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 14, 2012, at 8:23 AM, John Ackermann N8UR <j...@febo.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On the unit I bought from fluke.l, with a "Samsung" >> label, there are >>>>> two serial ports. The bottom one is the control port and is >>>>> definitely RS-232. The top port has only three wires >> (TXD, RXD, SG) >>>>> and I think is used for some sort of monitoring. >>>>> >>>>> I've been using Ulrich's "z38xx" software to monitor it with good >>>>> success. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> ---- >>>>> >>>>> Edgardo Molina said the following on 10/13/2012 10:18 PM: >>>>>> Dear Group, >>>>>> >>>>>> Good evening. I bought two HP Z3805A units a few weeks ago. They >>>>>> were bare units without antenna or power supply. After >> struggling >>>>>> to find a suitable 24V 3A noise free power supply for >> each of them, >>>>>> I mounted a couple of Symmetricom antennas and just >> fired them up. >>>>>> >>>>>> After around 25 minutes, the GPS Lock light lighted up. As the >>>>>> manual for this particular model is unobtainable in several >>>>>> searches through the Internet, I found that the readily >> available >>>>>> manual for the Z3801A would cover much of the Z3905A >> operation. I >>>>>> also got a software for monitoring the operation from BD Systems >>>>>> Inc. In Colorado. Now that I am sure both are operating >> and locked >>>>>> only by looking at the front panel lights, I would like to ask a >>>>>> couple of questions regarding their communication to the PC. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Is the DB-25 serial port carrying RS-232 signals? I >> see the port >>>>>> of the Z380A1 is different: RS-422. 2. If the port is >> plain RS-232 >>>>>> is it possible to use a Serial to USB adapter? I have >> heard about >>>>>> the inconsistencies that such an adapter could cause >> when used with >>>>>> a TBolt. Should I assume this is the same case with the >> Z3805A? 3. >>>>>> There was once a project for building a TBolt state >> monitor on a 2 >>>>>> line LCD screen. I own three of those monitors and they are just >>>>>> great. Is there an equivalent for these HP GPS units? >>>>>> >>>>>> Any suggestions for the operation of these units and your ever >>>>>> expert and kind advise is always welcome. You all have a nice >>>>>> weekend! >>>>>> >>>>>> Kindest regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Edgardo Molina >>>>>> Direcci?n IPTEL >>>>>> >>>>>> www.iptel.net.mx >>>>>> >>>>>> T : 55 55 55202444 >>>>>> M : 04455 20501854 >>>>>> >>>>>> Piensa en Bits SA de CV >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Informaci?n anexa: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> CONFIDENCIALIDAD DE INFORMACION >>>>>> >>>>>> Este mensaje tiene car?cter confidencial. Si usted no es el >>>>>> destinarario de este mensaje, le suplicamos se lo notifique al >>>>>> remitente mediante un correo electr?nico y que borre el presente >>>>>> mensaje y sus anexos de su computadora sin retener una >> copia de los >>>>>> mismos. 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