Paul,
I would also be interested in how you built your simulator.
I'm considering building a simple one myself.
I'll probably have mine just toggle the phase every 100 ms initially.
Dale

-----Original Message----- From: paul swed
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 11:08 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB New Modulation five cent demodulator / carrier regenerator ?

Jameco had them on sale for 20 cents each so I purchased some.
Moved the clock up frequency for 60 Khz and injected the 60Khz BPSK. (I
built a simulator) It did not track and in general produced noise. I
understand you can use 2 frequencies to drive it and I tried both from
synth gens.
I was looking at the RDS decoders and the data seemed to be differential.
Set it aside at that point. I am curious as to why it did not work. Like
everyone here would be great if it worked....
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Dale J. Robertson <[email protected]> wrote:

Paul,
I'm trying to understand your reference to 'differential BPSK'  all the
RDS references I've looked at indicate a 180 degree phase shift just like
WWVB. I'm thinking that differential and antipodal are just different words
for the same thing
Regards,
Dale

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On Oct 21, 2012, at 10:03 PM, paul swed <[email protected]> wrote:

> Because it use differential BPSK. I have a number of them and was trying
> it. There is a test pin that might make it useful.
> Regards
> Paul
> WB8TSL
>
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Dale J. Robertson <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>> While looking for other stuff I came across the data sheet for the NXP
>> Semi SAA6579.
>> The chip is a purpose built demodulator for RDS (which utilises a 57 >> KHz
>> ABPSK subcarrier on FM broadcast that is) used for traffic, song info
etc.
>> This chip has an anti-aliasing front end low pass filter and an 8th
order
>> bandpass filter followed by a costas loop and provides a phase
synchronous
>> regenerated carrier. What's interesting is that the switched cap
bandpass
>> filter and the synchronous detector are both driven by clocks derived
from
>> a local crystal oscillator which is spec'd at 4.332 or 8.664 MHz (76 or
152
>> X carrier chosen by a mode select pin) I'm thinking it should be
possible
>> to use a 4.56 or 9.12 MHz crystal or external clock to use this chip
as-is
>> on 60 KHz.
>> Have a look at the data sheet and tell me why I'm full of it.
>> Jameco is closing out these chips in DIP-16 at a nickel apiece,
>> $3.00/hundred.
>>
>> Dale NV8U
>>
>>
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