Hi

Strange - I must indeed have been lucky on the last dozen or so systems I built 
up.

Bob

On Dec 2, 2012, at 1:14 PM, David <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 08:43:39 -0500, Bob Camp <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Maybe I'm just shopping in the right places. I have yet to build up a 
>> desktop machine that does *not* have at least one COM port on the 
>> motherboard. That's been true all the way from simple little Atom based ITX 
>> boards right through monster boards with all sorts of crazy stuff on them.  
>> Yes, it's not out the back, but that's very easy to take care of if you need 
>> the port. 
>> 
>> Laptops are a bit different. They seem to die of some sort of display issue 
>> long before a desktop. I don't use them in test setups.
>> 
>> Bob
> 
> When I built my most recent workstation a couple years ago, I
> specifically looked for motherboards that included a COM port and
> thought I had found one but when it arrived, I discovered that they
> left off everything except the UART which was integrated.  Instead of
> trying to figure out what level translator they used, I just bought a
> PCI serial card instead.  None of the USB serial dongles I tried
> worked well.
> 
> I have stopped using laptops as well.  They are too fragile even when
> just sitting in one place.  I have seen a lot of old used working ones
> for sale at HAM swap meets though that are inexpensive.
> 
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