Isn't there a fast divide by N counter that you could set to 10? Maybe even in ECL?

----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <davidwh...@gmail.com> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz -> 16 MHz clock multiplier


They do not exist as I found out (again) not long ago.  The last 7490
made was LS (low power schottky) and I use quite a few of them.
Actually, I have seen a datasheet for a 74HC90 and 74HCT90 but they
apparently either never went into production or very few were
produced.

The closest non-TTL alternative that I found was the 74HC390 or
74HCT390 which is basically two 7490 counters in one package.

On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 11:59:01 +1100, Max <vk3...@gmail.com> wrote:

Where can one get some of these mythical  74HC90 's and 74AC90 's that
have been mentioned.
 None of the usual places have them, ie ebay, digi-key, farnell, or
even the Chinese.
 Also data-sheets are not to be found.
Thanks



On 4/01/2013 5:13 AM, Bill Fuqua wrote:
    One way is to divide by  10 and then multiply by 16.
Divide by 10 and then follow by 4 tuned frequency doublers.
This should introduce little phase noise.
    Another way to do it is to divide by 10, then pass the output thru a
narrow 16 MHz filter and amplify. Sounds difficult but the filter can
be one
or two 16 MHz crystals followed by a simple amplifier. Look at the
reference input circuit for a PTS-160.  The output of the divide by 10
needs to
be asymmetrical so it produces even harmonics. If you are using a
divide divide by 5&2 such as a 74HC90, divide by 2 first then by 5.
 Ideally the pulse width should be a half period of 16 MHz for the
maximum harmonic content at 16 MHz.
    You can take the output of the frequency divider and send it to a
NAND gate.
One input of the gate is directly connected and the other is delayed.
You can
use an RC with a variable capacitor to ground to get it just right.
    Just adjust the capacitor to get the maximum output from your
filter amplifier.
73
Bill wa4lav



At 07:41 PM 1/2/2013 +0000, you wrote:
What's the simplest way to generate 16 MHz from 10 MHz? This will be
for clocking a microcontroller at 16 MHz given 10 MHz (Cs/Rb/GPSDO).
Low price and low parts count is a goal; jitter is not a concern but
absolute long-term phase coherence is a must.

The ICS525 (as in TAPR Clock-Block) is a good candidate but I was
wondering if there's something cheaper, less functional, and maybe
not SSOP. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
/tvb


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