Joe

Nobody is suggesting that KTB noise is revised.

Bruce's original post quoted two articles that state that the thermal contribution to the phase noise floor of a carrier signal is -177dBm/Hz, not -174dBm/Hz. These papers also state that there is an equal contribution of amplitude noise which also equals -177dBm/Hz.

So the total thermal noise floor of a carrier signal is -174dBm/Hz - half of which contributes to amplitude noise, half of which contributes to phase noise. The quoted articles go some way to demonstrating that by both theory and measurement.

regards
Grant




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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:52:37 -0500
From: Joe Leikhim <jleik...@leikhim.com>
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Thermal noise contribution to phase noise
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I have just sent off an e-mail to David Howe of NIST Metrology
requesting clarification about this assertion that KTB is revised -3dB.


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