Hi

The other nice thing about TDR's is that the units come out in units of time. 
If you are working on a timing system, there's much less opportunity to goof 
things up by a conversion error. 

Bob

On Jan 25, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Magnus Danielson <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> On 01/24/2013 03:52 PM, John Lofgren wrote:
>>> Should I make it a habbit of TDRing my GPS antennas, receivers and
>>> splitters?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Magnus
>> 
>> I think that question ties into some of the other responses to the original 
>> post.  The value of doing the TDR measurement would probably depend on your 
>> cable lengths and how likely you think it is that a connector mismatch would 
>> cause cable reflections that might smear the GPS signals.
>> 
>> Since you're fortunate enough to have a TDR, it might be interesting to do 
>> it just to see how much mismatch there really is.  If the resolution of the 
>> measurement is good enough you should be able to see all of the connectors.  
>> If nothing else, it might tell you if you have a bad cable end or a loose 
>> connection.
> 
> Electrical TDRs excel on short distances, as they have great time resolution, 
> but the dynamics isn't great. VNAs has great dynamics, but tend to lack the 
> time resolution. The high frequency losses of cabling does however make some 
> of the details go lost anyway, and it also kicks in for reflections. 
> Sufficiently lossy cables makes impedance mismatches less critical as the 
> reflection at the sink side would need to traverse the cable twice, as well 
> as being reflected at the source side. So low-loss cables also calls for 
> lower reflections (rather than impedance matching really) in order to achieve 
> the higher system performance.
> 
> TDRing may not be the ultimate tool, but it is highly educative at least. :)
> 
>> Maybe the Italian guys should have run an optical TDR on their timing setup 
>> before doing the neutrino measurements :)
> 
> Actually, that would have meant that they where suspecting things from start. 
> Also, validating connections means unhooking them, allowing for human errors 
> on each location.
> 
> Cheers,
> Magnus
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