Hi

Most modern receivers give you corrections in ps rather than ns. That's not to 
say they are *good* to 1 ps. It's not uncommon to see adev (after doing the 
correction) running sub 1 ns at one second when compared to a 5071. 

Most people seem to do this in runs many minutes long. That's a bit away from 1 
second, so other things do come into the picture. 

Bob

On Apr 16, 2013, at 3:42 AM, "Tom Van Baak" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> I wonder if one should only measure the PPS thought. Looking directly at 
>> the clock could help to separate the clock drift and the time, even if 
>> you get sufficient clues from the PPS and sawtooth correction.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Magnus
> 
> I've never tried that. Start with checking the ADEV of the LO. I always 
> assumed the 1PPS was pre-compensated for instantaneous LO offset and rate, as 
> calculated during the previous second(s). If so and ADEV(1 s) is less than 
> 1e-9 then the 1PPS + sawtooth will have sufficient accuracy for your needs. 
> Message @@Ha contains the oscillator and clock parameters.
> 
> As you know professional receivers bypass this issue because they take an 
> external LO (e.g., Rb, Cs, HM).
> 
> When you look at the actual clock solutions (which are in the @@Hn message) 
> you will be surprised at the variance. At the per-SV per-second level it is 
> not uncommon to see errors of many ns, even tens of ns. But when you average 
> up to 12 SV together every second for 600 seconds then you start to see 
> something trustable. You can see first hand why GPSDO need long 
> time-constants.
> 
> Here's a one second sample of a single Hn message:
> 
> @@Hn: sigma 36 sawtooth 10 0 0 00000000 mean frac 861564.000 (0.000)
> ch  0 sv  6 frac 0.000861576 s = mean +   12 ns
> ch  1 sv  5 frac 0.000861586 s = mean +   22 ns
> ch  2 sv 10 frac 0.000861581 s = mean +   17 ns
> ch  3 sv 19 frac 0.000861573 s = mean +    9 ns
> ch  5 sv 13 frac 0.000861571 s = mean +    7 ns
> ch  6 sv 26 frac 0.000019831
> ch  7 sv 28 frac 0.000861555 s = mean +   -8 ns
> ch  8 sv  7 frac 0.000861548 s = mean +  -15 ns
> ch  9 sv  3 frac 0.000861571 s = mean +    7 ns
> ch 10 sv  8 frac 0.000861546 s = mean +  -17 ns
> 
> /tvb
> 
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