On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 07:48:08AM -0400, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > At least with the newer versions ( the X stuff), they > really seem to want to see the PIC Kit 3.
As I said, it's a marketing move: the PICkit 2 was declared obsolete after the main developer left Microchip and the PICkit 3 was marketed as an 'improved' version, and all new software was geared toward the 'new' PICkit 3, despite the fact that it is inferior to the PICkit 2 in almost all regards Recent updates to the PICkit 3 made it more and more compatible with the PICkit 2 but it is still missing certain features like the uart or logic analyzer. Just google for a comparison (PICkit 2 vs PICkit 3) to get an idea :) Best, Herbert > Bob > On May 25, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Herbert Poetzl <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:04:59PM -0400, Bob Camp wrote: >>> Hi >>> If you are putting money into a Microchip programmer, I'd >>> probably head over to the PIC Kit 3 rather than the 2. It will >>> do debug as well as programming on the range of parts. >> Unfortunately the command line support is missing in the >> PICkit 3, although there was/is an efford to make the 'new' >> PICkit 3 compatible with the PICkit 2. >> (as usualy, marketing decisions ... :) >> And the PICkit 2 can do all the debugging the PICkit 3 >> does plus it can work as UART and Logic Analyzer as well. >>> Having breakpoints and debug is a *good* thing. >> Depends, using breakpoints and/or debug on time critical >> stuff (like software PWM or UART) usually results in >> unexpected results, more often it is simpler to add one >> or more LEDs to display a state or do 'printf' style >> debugging via serial (UART/I2C/SPI). >> But as always, YMMV. >> best, >> Herbert >>> Bob >>> On May 25, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Herbert Poetzl <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 08:46:03AM -0500, Jason Rabel wrote: >>>>> I've decided I finally want to tackle learning how to use a PIC >>>>> chip for some smaller projects. Can someone recommend me a good >>>>> (and cheap) PIC, and possible some literature (be it a book or >>>>> website)? I have a fairly recent willem eprom programmer that >>>>> I'm hoping I can use. >>>> Microchip has good product selection tools like this one: >>>> http://www.microchip.com/maps/microcontroller.aspx >>>> (note the plus signs on the right side of each section) >>>>> I don't know what all the features PICs have, but for my first >>>>> project I would like to have it connected to a serial port on >>>>> one of my Soekris' where it can grab info (i.e. the current >>>>> time, or NTP/GPS info) and output that on a little LED display. >>>> Depending on the type of LED display you have in mind, you >>>> want to have PWM capabilities (multiplexing) and high >>>> current source/sink, as well as an (E)U(S)ART for the serial >>>> communication. >>>> A four digit LED display can be easily controlled by a >>>> PIC16F1503 (price about 0.8 USD, 14 pins) and the required >>>> documents are available on the Microchip site: >>>> http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/Devices.aspx?dDocName=en553475 >>>> You can do the UART part in software for low data rates >>>> or simply take the PIC16F1508/9 which already includes >>>> an EUSART (price about 1.3 USD, 20 pins) >>>> One programmer for many PIC chips (8 bit to 32 bit) is >>>> the PICkit2 which can be bought for less than 30 USD >>>> (via usb, works fine on Linux and MacOS as well) >>>> HTH, >>>> Herbert >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe, go to >>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe, go to >>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>> and follow the instructions there. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
