Hi Ed,

All looking good with EFC reconnected.

I will chuck it on time-lab shortly.

Except the output frequency is -0.05Hz out.

Do you think the 9390 EFC will pull it in O/K?


-marki


-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf 
Of Ed Palmer
Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013 1:33 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 9390 GPS RX


On 5/26/2013 8:24 PM, Mark C. Stephens wrote:
> Ed, I'd unplugged the Rb from the counter and into the timer for measurement.
>
> During this time it had dropped out of lock again.
> That's why the Allan Deviation is so bad, it was sweeping.
> But I didn't realise as there was no counter attached!
>
> I need to connect something up to the 'lock' pin for a visual indication of 
> lock to avoid further embarrassments..

I've got manuals for both the FRK and the 'FRK (H or L)'.  The FRK says that 
the lock input can handle up to 70V @ 50 ma.  The other one doesn't say.  You 
should be able to run an LED with a dropping resistor from the 
+24 supply.

> I have cracked it open again and revisited the crystal board.
>
> I found that the centre frequency was a tad low so I upped C12 to 27pf 
> (from 22pf) With 6v EFC and the trimmer cap in mid position its dead on 10Mhz.

Remember that it doesn't have to be dead center.  After all, that's why the 
thing sweeps in the first place.  It's looking for the signal and it will find 
it if it's anywhere in the sweep range.

> And I slowed down and waited (thanks Ed..) overnight to see if it drifted off 
> anywhere else.
> But at 10Mhz it has stayed.

Very nice! :)  More thought, less action.  Move as though you're defusing a 
bomb.  Ideally, you know what you want to do, why (with at least two seperate 
tests to confirm your reasoning), and what should happen when you make the 
change.  Adjustments are bad enough, be triple sure before you touch the 
soldering iron.  Yes, it's overkill for most situations, but if major dollars 
or an irreplaceable device are at stake, it will pay dividends in the long term.

> I will reconnect EFC later on today (being a work day) when I get some time 
> to move.

Work?  What is this Work thing you speak of?  Oh, yes, I think I do have some 
vague recollection from years past.  I think I tried it but didn't care for it. 
 :)

> I also have the sneaking suspicion the external adjustments have been 'got at'
>
> Looking at the trimmer pot through my mag lamp for c-field adjust, I can see 
> a lot of scratches and wear.

I wouldn't be surprised to find that someone played with the external 
adjustment in a misguided attempt to compensate for the crystal drift.  
Totally ineffective.  The C-field is at the wrong end of the system.

> Hopefully the Oscillator current capacitor C11 and the temperature adjustment 
> hasn't been touched.

You mean for the lamp?  They're pretty hard to get at.  I had to adjust the 
lamp temperature on one unit and had a devil of a time finding a screwdriver 
that could reach it.  The reading on the lamp voltage monitor will tell you if 
those adjustments are correct. Remember, move slowly and carefully.  :)

> Anyway, Wish me luck ;)

Always :),

Ed



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