I believe these were all rescued from the Tip (Dump, Trash) judging by the 
water damage and bent cases.

Mine had been tested in Japan and had approximate co-ordinates in it: 
https://www.google.com/search?q=34+44'+N+135+21'+E&oq=34+44'+N+135+21'+E

Initially I had a OCXO communication error which I fixed by a :syst:pres
(shrug, I thought it was pretty major at the time, I can tell you!)

At the moment it's in an air scrubbed and temperature controlled room, naked, 
without its case. 
Both heatsinks are just slightly warm to the touch.
However the Puck is fairly warm..

I still have "Holdover Uncertainty Predict: --" which is a bit of a worry.

Also the 1PPS TI is always about -100ns relative to GPS, which is way out 
there..


-marki




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Stewart Cobb
Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2013 8:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3815A

Your Z3815A may need more cooling than it's getting, especially if you have it 
resting "horizontally" as it looks like it should.  I bought one of those "kits 
from China" about a year and a half ago.  Powered it up, waited for it to lock 
... and it was dead within a week, with the unmistakable smell of overheated 
electronics.  One of the Vicor power bricks inside
(probably) overheated and shorted out.  Here's what I learned:

The Z3815A board was designed to go into a VXI-like mainframe, with a carefully 
specified amount of cooling airflow.  I think that particular board was 
designed to require that airflow, and overheats without it.
There's a group in Australia which has experience with these boxes, and I got 
the impression from my contacts with them that they see the Vicor bricks fail 
pretty regularly.  That would imply that they're not getting the cooling they 
need, because Vicor bricks in other applications are pretty reliable in my 
experience.

You can see a photo of the original Z3815A on TVB's website here:

<http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/z3815a/>

The Z3815A I got from China was in a different case, just two bent pieces of 
sheet aluminum.  The case _looks_ official, with the right label on the front 
and silkscreen on the back.  But the board inside had a lot more crud and 
corrosion than the nice clean case did, and parts of the plastic edge connector 
on the back of the board were broken.  Worst of all, the coaxial cable from the 
antenna connector ended in a one-inch flying lead soldered to the board.  The 
"shield" of the coax cable ended in another flying lead, soldered to ground 
somewhere else.  (Any RF engineers reading this are probably cringing now.)  
I'm pretty sure that no one at HP designed or approved that connection.  Once I 
saw it, I understood why the GPS receiver appeared to be "deaf."  Even 
connected to a very good antenna, it never saw more than 4 satellites, and even 
those had weak signals.

Did someone in China find a cache of bare Z3815 boards in a scrapyard 
somewhere, and fab an official-looking case to match?  I don't know, but it 
might be the way to bet.  Meanwhile, take the lid off your Z3815A and feel the 
heatsinks on the power bricks.  If they're too hot to touch, they're too hot; 
give them some air.

Cheers!
--Stu
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