I totally agree that a 123 will not replace it. A luck would have it I have 12 X 2n3390 xsistors Beta 400-1000. These are the older TO-98s and I will try one tonight. Regards Paul WB8TSL
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Orin Eman <orin.e...@gmail.com> wrote: > I find it hard to believe that NTE spec the 123AP to replace a transistor > with min beta of 500... > > This is quite entertaining: > > http://www.vetco.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1856 > > Look at the parts it's supposed to replace. > > (Nothing against Vetco - they are a great source of NTE components and are > local to me. They are just quoting what NTE claim.) > > Orin. > > > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:42 PM, J. L. Trantham <jlt...@att.net> wrote: > > > The 2N6429 crosses to an NTE123AP, in stock at Allied for $0.80. > > > > > > > http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=70214870&mkwid=szEc5 > > > > > jMBI&pcrid=23468365337&pkw=nte123ap&pmt=e&pdv=c&gclid=CKyzu9_cybgCFWYV7AodJA > > sAWQ > > > > Good luck. > > > > Joe > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On > > Behalf Of paul swed > > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 8:29 PM > > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 10811 update > > > > Well learned quite a bit Q4 does have an issue. Further there is a reason > > it > > has such high Beta. Its must deliver 30 ma to the oscillator and buffer. > > I was quite surprised by this current level. I was guessing the > oscillator > > was a few mils and the buffer maybe 8. > > The 2n3904 simply does not cut it. Need to do some digging in the ole > > transistors. > > Regards > > Paul. > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:06 PM, paul swed <paulsw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I can hope > > > I will embed a k thermocouple also. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Bob Camp <li...@rtty.us> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi > > >> > > >> The regulator should be fixed, and the OCXO will work better with it > > >> repaired. That said, shifting the regulated voltage from 5.7 to 5.27 > > >> volts should not shift that oscillator 45 Hz. > > >> > > >> Bob > > >> > > >> On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:00 AM, paul swed <paulsw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Hello to the group. Numbers of threads running on the HP 10811. > > >> > Mine is > > >> 45 > > >> > Hz low. The oven is most likely ok. I did get the can open per the > > >> various > > >> > other threads and the web pix. Started testing the circuits and > > >> > have > > >> found > > >> > that the regulator for the oscillator isn't. Its supposed to > > >> > produce > > >> 5.7V > > >> > and is at 5.27V thats pretty significant. The transistor looks like > > >> > a shorted collector base junction. Though I do not have it out of > > >> > circuit yet. Its Q4 a 2n6429. What interesting about this > > >> > transistor is its > > >> beta at > > >> > 1 ma is 500 min and max is 1300. Its not a darlington. Thats pretty > > >> > amazing. I am looking through my xsistors to find something close. > > >> > May > > >> just > > >> > through a 2n3904 in for a quick test. Its beta is nothing like the > > 6429. > > >> > But it would help to prove/disprove the point that the low V may be > > >> > offsetting the oscillator I hope. > > >> > Will also embed a K thermal couple to verify the oven really is in > > >> > the 80-84C region. > > >> > Regards > > >> > Paul. > > >> > WB8TSL > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > > >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > >> > and follow the instructions there. > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > > >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > >> and follow the instructions there. > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.