Hi

The original design with 3x75 ohm outputs would be driving a 50 ohm load rather 
than a 33 1/3 ohm load. That would put it "in spec" for the CLC409 as opposed 
to just out of spec current limit wise. 

Bob

On Aug 9, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Charles Steinmetz <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bob wrote:
> 
>> Ok, each op-amp drives three loads. Each load has a 50 ohm resistor in 
>> series with it. Each output could be terminated in 50 ohms. If they all are 
>> terminated, the op amp is driving three 100 ohm loads in parallel. The op 
>> amp sees 33 1/3 ohm at it's output in that case. That's way below the 100 
>> ohms that the manufacturer seems to be recommending.
> 
> The circuit is basically the same as the Extron ADA 6 Component that I posted 
> about back in May.  I noted:
> 
>> Several units modified as above have been tested and each amplifier drives 
>> 3x 50 ohm loads to ~ +13dBm (~ 1 Vrms) with harmonics <-65dBc and about 1 dB 
>> of headroom.  Note that this requires peak currents of ±85 mA from the 
>> CLC409s, which are rated for output currents of ±60 mA “for maximum 
>> reliability” (also note that the guaranteed minimum current limit value of 
>> the CLC409 is ±50 mA).  Thus, for optimum performance, 50 ohm loads should 
>> be distributed one or two per amplifier.  Note that the reference inputs of 
>> many devices is higher than 50 ohms (often ~ 1k ohm), so this may not be an 
>> issue in many applications.
> 
> (see 
> <http://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/attachments/20130522/45ae59f8/attachment-0001.pdf>)
> 
> I do not know for how long a CLC409 will drive 3 parallel 50 ohm 
> back-terminated loads to +13 dBm before failure.  My test mule did it 
> continuously for several weeks, but I would not recommend it.  Of course, 
> some CLC409s (with current limits closer to the minimum spec) may not drive 3 
> parallel 50 ohm back-terminated loads to +13 dBm at all.
> 
> The CLC409 is within its +/- 60 mA "maximum reliability" spec driving 2 
> parallel 50 ohm back-terminated loads to +13 dBm (peak current +/- 56 mA), 
> although parts that are right at the 50 mA minimum current limit spec may be 
> starting to current limit.
> 
> Someone asked how the modified DA performs.  In addition to the distortion 
> data above, I posted:
> 
>> Phase noise of < -155dBc at 10 MHz was observed on the modified units.
>> Adjacent-output isolation (same CLC409) was > 30dB. Non-adjacent-output 
>> isolation was > 90dB.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Charles
> 
> 
> 
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