Hi

There was a point in time where HP made a *lot* of the Cs standards out there.

Bob

On Aug 26, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Magnus Danielson <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On 08/26/2013 01:56 PM, Bob Camp wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 26, 2013, at 2:01 AM, Magnus Danielson <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Exactly. As you have three devices, measuring them pair-wise you get
>>> three measures and three un-knowns, and you can untangle the
>>> stability of each individual. If you have yet more, you can get some
>>> confidence levels also as it becomes overdetermined. 
>> The only real gotcha is common mode drift. If all your gizmos are made same 
>> place / same time / same parts then they may drift the same way. In this 
>> case "drift" could correlate to environment rather than just to time 
>> (aging). Back when HP pretty much made all the Cs standards this was a 
>> common thing to worry about when setting up an ensemble of them. 
> Indeed. An independent source make sense, like a different atomic
> reference mechanism, or as you propose, a different location.
>> Of course you could always move your ensemble to an un-inhabited cave and …..
>> 
>> No, HP did not make the long tube Cs standards at NIST (as the NIST guys 
>> always love to point out) and they are very different animals than the ones 
>> you can buy. So, the international definition of the second has always been 
>> safe from manufacturer induced common mode. 
> Also, it wasn't as manufacture dominant as it has been. Not all the
> commercial cesiums being used have been HP, even if HP have made a big
> number of their dominance.
> 
> Cheers,
> Magnus
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