Hi, They have learned the hard way that they can't do that easily. They can, if they add the necessary "mentioning of vendor X and their product Y does in no way means an endorsement". I've seen presentations starting with a "non-endorsement statement" so that they can then say "Oh, this is the boxes we have chosen to use", which tends to just render spread of information and sharing of experience amongst the users.
I expect them (NIST and other publicly funded institutions) to act like this. It is a bit annoying when you just want to know what they where using, but it's understandable. It is even more understandable as they start to list miss-features of device A, B and C, but not device D. It's a balance to share information which can be very useful, but not cause people to be upset by being left out or feeling discredited. When working on the commercial side of things, I try to respect this restriction and assume it's usage, while trying to find a suitable compromise at times. The same goes when writing standards. Cheers, Magnus On 10/30/2013 12:12 PM, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > I believe that Jim is more or less right. There seems to be an agreement not > to name names. I’m sure it’s partly to keep everybody happy when the paper is > presented. It also does relate to some sort of rules and regs. > > Bob > > On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:00 AM, Tom Knox <[email protected]> wrote: > >> John the problem is the NIST does not endorse one brand vs another. They go >> to great lengths to stay neutral. But if knowledge of the products used >> sheds light on the research it is not a usually a problem. I would say an >> educated guess the 6 and 8 channel receivers were oncores, and the rubidium >> oscillators were LPRO's. >> >> Thomas Knox >> >> >> >>> From: [email protected] >>> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:06:25 -0700 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Anyone Know What The Models Were In This NIST >>> Paper? >>> >>> Bob, >>> >>> Yes - well, it is a little dated - so I would think the chance for a >>> competitive edge would have expired. Maybe not for models C and D but I >>> would certainly think so for Models A & B. >>> >>> There must be some sort of technical statute of limitations, correct? ;) >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> John Westmoreland >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Bob Camp <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> That’s always one of those “we can only tell you if you work for the US >>>> government” sort of things. If anybody knows it’s one of those “you better >>>> not tell” things. >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:40 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know what Models A, B, C, and D were in this paper? Or maybe >>>>> had a good idea? >>>>> >>>>> http://www.nist.gov/customcf/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=50196 >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> John Westmoreland >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe, go to >>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe, go to >>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
