The link
http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/1987/Vol%2019_19.pdf
doesn't work, use instead:
http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/1987papers/Vol%2019_19.pdf

On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Azelio Boriani
<[email protected]> wrote:
> From an old time-nuts post (by Magnus):
>
> try these
> http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/1987/Vol%2019_19.pdf
> http://horology.jpl.nasa.gov/papers/FlfmSimPtti.pdf
>
> and here
> http://libra.msra.cn/Publication/50096626/a-new-time-domain-model-of-precise-clock-noise
>
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Wolfgang Wallner
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Time-Nuts community,
>>
>> I'm interested in the simulation of oscillator noise (especially in discrete 
>> event simulators).
>> I came across this topic as part of the literature research for my master's 
>> thesis, and have to admit that I really underestimated how complex this 
>> topic is.
>> In the past weeks, I have spent a lot of time reading about different kinds 
>> of variances, and I think I have a basic understanding now.
>>
>> I would like to ask you two questions:
>>
>> 1) Do you have any advice for me on what papers to read concerning 
>> oscillator noise simulation?
>>
>> I have read different kinds of papers up to now, but non of them was really 
>> what I was looking for:
>>
>> *) One of the papers I have read is "Accurate Clock Models for Simulating 
>> Wireless Sensor Networks" by Ferrari, Meier and Thiele.
>> But I don't think their simple model is of any use, as they completely 
>> ignore the typical allan variance of oscillators.
>> *) On the other hand, the paper "Achieving a Realistic Notion of Time in 
>> Discrete Event Simulation" by Gaderer, Nagy, Loschmidt and Sauter describes 
>> a very realistic model, but they keep the implementation details to 
>> themselves.
>> *) What could be of use for my purpose could be "Simulation of Oscillator 
>> Noise" by Barnes, but as it is from 1988 it is quite dated.
>>
>> 2) Do you know any public data samples of the allan variance of a real 
>> oscillators?
>>
>> When I look in the data sheets of oscillator that I find on the internet, 
>> they only have precision estimates like 1ppm or 1ppb, but no detailed allan 
>> variance graphs.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Wolfgang Wallner
>>
>> PS: When I use the word oscillator I mean the cheap quartz oscillators as 
>> found in typical consumer electronic stuff.
>> PPS: I'm not sure if this mailing-list is the right place to ask my 
>> questions, as simulation is not listed in your mailing-list topics. Sorry if 
>> this mail is off-topic.
>>
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