Hi

It’s been a few years since I played with the TBolt delay. At least on the one 
I messed with, it only did modulo 100 ns moves. Anything finer grained than 100 
ns simply was ignored.

Bob

On Apr 27, 2014, at 11:32 PM, Tom Van Baak <t...@leapsecond.com> wrote:

> Jim,
> 
> Most (all?) timing receivers allow you to virtually shift the 1PPS forwards 
> and backwards to compensate for antenna delay or other factors. But the 
> physical 1PPS output will still have clock quantization and the only way to 
> deal with this is external h/w or s/w sawtooth correction.
> 
> Imagine some GPS timing receiver with 50 MHz clock and 20 ns quantization. 
> Each 1PPS is one of those 50 MHz clock edges. The sawtooth correction is some 
> number between +/- 10 ns. If you were to add 1 ns to the antenna delay, the 
> 1PPS output would still be one of those clock edges, but the sawtooth 
> correction number would now be 1 ns less. So there is no electrical or 
> mathematical advantage in doing this.
> 
> Speaking of which, has anyone watched what happens if you change the antenna 
> delay by 2000, 200, 20, or 2 ns in a TBolt GPSDO?
> 
> /tvb
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Miller" <j...@jtmiller.com>
> To: "time-nuts" <time-nuts@febo.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New timing receivers?
> 
> 
>> I spent some time reading the uBlox-6 documentation. I found the TIM-TP ubx
>> message and format. I see that there is also the ability to feed back to
>> the uBlox-6 time shift info for the PPS in 1ns increments.
>> 
>> Does it make sense to feed the TIM-TP info back this way to provide
>> correction?
>> 
>> Or is an external delay line or TIC plus software the only way?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> jim ab3cv
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Jim Miller <j...@jtmiller.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm reading though the manual for my recently acquired M12+T which I'm
>>> looking forward to using.
>>> 
>>> I notice that the manual is dated 09FEB05.
>>> 
>>> So the M12+T has been around for about a decade.
>>> 
>>> Are there more recent timing receivers available now or has the ubiquity
>>> of the consumer GPS market distracted all investment from timing receivers
>>> except at the high end?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Jim AB3CV
> 
> 
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