I read somewhere that you can pay FTDI and re-enable the devices but further in the article it said they would be permanently disabled in windows. Confusing.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:47 PM, jim s <[email protected]> wrote: > Petty BS. If they want to disable the competitors, rev the device to have > something that they can use to id their devices, and leave the other driver > alone. USB supposed to put the widest support in the host end, and the > secret sauce in the device. > > If they have a problem, they will not produce anyone with a dead device > wanting to ever do business with them by disabling infringing devices. If > they put out a message or such, but still worked with their driver fine. > > Else I will expect a generic unsigned driver to be out, which can be > installed and will again work with all. That isn't desirable for anyone, > but if that is what it takes to get going, most will install the unsigned > driver, then mark FTDI devices forever off their list. > > They aren't the only ones with the secret sauce. I've seen several > others, and had I known about them planning to do this would have gone with > them, and not FTDI. There are only a few things that I have that have > incorporated FTDI in, and I'm going to look at dumping that code and device > now. > > Jim > > > On 10/23/2014 8:01 PM, Paul Berger wrote: > >> Unfortunately the issue that FTDI is trying to combat is counterfeiters, >> and I think you will find that the counterfeit devices will report the same >> product and vendor id as the genuine ones. The product and vendor ids are >> how the OS identifies a device and how they decide which device driver >> should be used. Apparently at least some of these counterfeit devices are >> not perfect copies or else a device driver would be unable distinguish them >> from genuine. It is like a number of years ago when cable TV companies >> where having a lot of trouble with counterfeit cable descramblers, they >> found a flaw in the code used in them and transmitted what became know as a >> "magic bullet" that caused them to fail. >> >> Paul. >> >> On 2014-10-23 11:30 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:05 PM, paul swed <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Umm I think its profoundly hard to know one way or another what chip you >>>> have in a widget. >>>> >>> Before you buy it yes, you can't know. But it's trivial to find out >>> after you own it. For example click the Apple logo then choose "about >>> this Mac" and the data is there. For example it says this random USB >>> thumb drive I have is >>> >>> Product ID: 0x3260 >>> Vendor ID: 0x0aec (Neodio Technologies Corporation) >>> Version: 1.00 >>> Serial Number: 20040602032741578 >>> >>> This same exact information is logged every time the device is >>> inserted to my Linux system too. I assume MS Windows will tell you >>> all the vendor info as well. >>> >>> The vendor IDs are handed out to manufacturers by an outfit at "usb.org >>> ". >>> >>> So, check your devices. It's not hard to find out about the ones you >>> have. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This is pretty insane actually. >>> >>>> I buy products that I believe are legit no way to know just as if the >>>> cpu >>>> in my acer or emachines not legal. Heck I have no idea. >>>> Regards >>>> Paul >>>> WB8TSL >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Bill Dailey <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well..if they didn't properly license the technology... They should be >>>>> disabled. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:45 PM, Mark Sims <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Happened to a friend of mine. All his Arduino stuff died. This >>>>>> could >>>>>> >>>>> be the reason: >>>>> >>>>>> http://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/ftdi-driver-kills- >>>>>> fake-ftdi-ft232 >>>>>> Short story: FTDI released a new version of their USB driver (via >>>>>> >>>>> Windows automatic updates no less) that bricks other vendor's >>>>> compatible >>>>> versions of their interface chip. They also updated their license >>>>> file to >>>>> indicate that this may happen... except you never get a chance to >>>>> decline >>>>> the new license with automatic driver updates. I can just hear the >>>>> class >>>>> action lawyers drooling... >>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>>> To unsubscribe, go to >>>>>> >>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>>> >>>>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe, go to >>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >>>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Doc Bill Dailey KXØO _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
