I wasn't clear from the photo whether the circuit was a representation of what 
is on the board, and you just had to connect the pins listed together, or 
whether this was a new circuit that had to be inserted.  Sounds like the latter?

Anthony

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From: time-nuts [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of GandalfG8--- 
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Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 4:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, 
Z3811A, Z3812...

Well, I'm happy to report that Arthur's modification does do the trick, 
although I don't know why as I don't have any data for the interface  as yet.
I daren't disturb the 15 pin connector right now as this  Z3811A PCB is still 
out of its case and connected to a breadboard  with wires just pushed into the 
sockets, and for the same reason I don't have  any computer connection at the 
moment either.
 
My implementation isn't quite as described, in that I've not made a connection 
to the fault LED but am just manually pulling that input high and low on the 
breadboard with another wire link as required.
Whether or not this is part or all of the reason that my green "on"  light is 
flashing rather than steady I don't know, but I am seeing the 1PPS and 15MHz 
outputs and the 15MHz looks to be conditioning ok.
 
Aside from the 5 volt supply, which I'm picking off from pin 5 of the header 
between u33 and U34, and the aforementioned fault LED connection, all the  
other connections can be made to J5 externally and could be housed in a 15  way 
shell along with the switching circuits.
 
I'm still hopeful that some cross linking of the right pairs might  achieve the 
same result without the extra circuitry, so "all" that needs to  be done now is 
just to identify the right pairs:-)
 
At least with it up and running it should be easier to check out some  of the 
inter-unit signalling.
 
Thanks Arthur, your efforts are much appreciated.
 
regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 01/11/2014 15:25:02 GMT Standard Time, [email protected]
writes:

For  those who missed it, Arthur's post is at 
https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2010-June/047825.html and the photo  
is at 
http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac262/rjb1998/RFTG-uREF1photo1_zps87c505ca.jpg

Anthony




-----Original  Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf  Of Arthur Dent
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 9:20 PM
To:  [email protected]
Subject: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom  Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, 
Z3812A GPSDO system

Bob Stewart bob at  evoria.net
?? ? I have both of my units sitting on the bench. I found that  I needed to 
connect them together to get the REF1 unit to come out of standby  ? . ??

Bob Camp kb8tq at n1k.org
??I suspect that somebody will have  to figure out what the 15 pin connector / 
jumper is doing. On previous RFTG  units there was a way to re-wire the 
crossover interface to fake out the slave  detect process. That would let you 
run a single GPS equipped box and have it  behave correctly. Without the fake 
wires trick none of them played nice  without the slave being present ? 
.  ??
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Reposting what I had posted  over a week ago, in case you missed it ? .

Arthur Dent golgarfrincham  at gmail.com Wed Oct 22 13:59:48 EDT 2014  ?? ? 
Way back on Fri Jun 11  16:48:43 UTC 2010 I posted about using one of these 
units I had modified but  at the time there wasn't a single person who was 
interested. I have been using  the RFTG-u REF1 since then and it is a nice 
unit. The modifications I added  (including a power supply -see photo) allows 
the lights to cycle through their  normal sequence on warm-up and the second 
unit isn't needed at all ? .  ??

-Arthur
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