Hi

While OCXO’s that have -170 dbc/ Hz specs are fairly common, they normally go 
deep inside a box of some sort. It’s a rare off the shelf device that takes in 
the output of a distribution amp *and* requires that sort of phase noise.

What’s your target device(s)?

Why do I ask? Well, a device that has a -170 dbc floor combined with a -170 dbc 
oscillator will give you -167. A device with a -200 dbc floor will still 
“degrade” a -170 dbc oscillator. That’s a fairly big change in circuit 
complexity (and cost) for a 2.9 something db improvement. The list of devices 
that might make it worth spending (say) a few hundred dollars a channel versus 
under a buck a channel is pretty short. That may put a bound on this. 

One example may help: If you are running phase noise testing, forget about 
multi channel distribution amps. They will add a ground loop(s) / pickup 
loop(s) that you will be fighting forever and ever. Do that sort of stuff 
straight off the oscillator. There is no rational amount of money (ummm …. 
errrr … how much do you have?) you can spend to get around this. A second (or 
eighth) oscillator is cheaper than even some of the simple approaches that 
don’t work very well. The type of OCXO you are talking about is a < $50 item on 
eBay. 

Bob


> On Nov 23, 2014, at 9:17 PM, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks to all for the response but the distribution amp additive noise can be 
> a real problem since the 10 MHz to be distributed is -170 dBC/Hz at 10 KHz 
> and needs to be preserved if at all possible.
> 
> BTW, the Ettus Octobox doesn't have a spec for additive phase noise, so 
> that's out.
> 
> Again thanks...Bill
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob Camp
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:09 PM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Low Additive Phase Noise 10 MHz Amps
> 
> Hi
> 
> For any “real world” source being distributed, simple high speed CMOS buffers 
> will not add enough noise to matter at 10 MHz. That of course also assumes 
> that the target gear is the normal bunch of instruments that we all play 
> with. 
> 
> Bob
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> What's the latest opinion (data) on available low additive phase noise 
>> 10 MHz amplifiers for 10 MHz distribution?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards and thanks.Bill
>> 
>> 
>> 
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