Much of the Malaysian Agilent gear uses this style of case with a wraparound 
bumper in place of the system II feet and feet are removed when gear is rack 
mounted.

One of my best surplus buys ever was a huge crate of mixed mounting hardware 
feet / rack flanges etc I've been using that box o stuff for 10 years

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> On Dec 14, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Bob Camp <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> The desktop version (with handle) used the rubber “bumper” wrap around for 
> feet. The bumpers got pulled when they were rack mounted. The ones that got 
> put back on may or may not be identical to the originals. That’s a very 
> normal part of the surplus process. The 100% correct HP original case on the 
> box as HP built it did not use the clip on feet. 
> 
> The reason for this is pretty simple. The Z3801 / Z3805 came before the 
> “instrument” versions of the same products. The internal case structure is 
> same/ same. The instrument simply gets a gray sheet metal jacket that fits 
> around the Z38xx box. That’s the way HP designed it. Since its just a jacket, 
> it gets feet as part of the bumpers. Most of these (likely 99%) got rack 
> mounted and the feet / bumpers were tossed. I have a *lot* of very legit 
> surplus HP gear that did not come with feet or bumpers. 
> 
> Bob
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> On 14 December 2014 at 19:32, Bob Camp <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>> There are not the usual 3 holes underneath where feet go.
>>> 
>>> I understand that they are different. The problem is the same though. 
>>> Pulling a box in and out of a rack with feet or bumpers on it is a pain. 
>>> They often get “lost” early in the instrument’s life. Often it’s a standard 
>>> process on all gear as it comes into the facility.  All of the un-needed 
>>> bits and pieces go into a big pile. When the feet (or whatever) are found 
>>> later in life they may or may not be re-installed correctly. They might not 
>>> even be the ones that came with the instrument.
>>> 
>>> Bob
>> 
>> I am not sure if you are following me. On most (all??) HP kit I have
>> seen, there are 3 holes at each corner of the bottom, where is
>> possible to fit feet if one is going to use it on a desktop, rather
>> than a rack. This unit does not have those holes, so it would be
>> impossible to fit the usual HP feet on it.
>> 
>> Looking around, I have 15 bits of HP kit,  all of which have holes in
>> the corner for feet. But this 58503A, with the Chinese box, does not
>> have the holes. I don't know whether the 85053A is supposed to have
>> them, or whether this is just a flaw in the design of the counterfeit.
>> 
>> Dave
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