Hi

> On Dec 14, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Scott McGrath <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Much of the Malaysian Agilent gear uses this style of case with a wraparound 
> bumper in place of the system II feet and feet are removed when gear is rack 
> mounted.
> 
> One of my best surplus buys ever was a huge crate of mixed mounting hardware 
> feet / rack flanges etc I've been using that box o stuff for 10 years

Somewhere there’s a building full of gear all of which is missing it’s feet and 
bumpers …

You are lucky to have found that box. In most cases they get tossed out with 
the trash. The same is true of many of the fancy i/o cables, they get put into 
the copper recycle pile and are gone…

Bob

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>> On Dec 14, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Bob Camp <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> The desktop version (with handle) used the rubber “bumper” wrap around for 
>> feet. The bumpers got pulled when they were rack mounted. The ones that got 
>> put back on may or may not be identical to the originals. That’s a very 
>> normal part of the surplus process. The 100% correct HP original case on the 
>> box as HP built it did not use the clip on feet. 
>> 
>> The reason for this is pretty simple. The Z3801 / Z3805 came before the 
>> “instrument” versions of the same products. The internal case structure is 
>> same/ same. The instrument simply gets a gray sheet metal jacket that fits 
>> around the Z38xx box. That’s the way HP designed it. Since its just a 
>> jacket, it gets feet as part of the bumpers. Most of these (likely 99%) got 
>> rack mounted and the feet / bumpers were tossed. I have a *lot* of very 
>> legit surplus HP gear that did not come with feet or bumpers. 
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>>> On Dec 14, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 14 December 2014 at 19:32, Bob Camp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> There are not the usual 3 holes underneath where feet go.
>>>> 
>>>> I understand that they are different. The problem is the same though. 
>>>> Pulling a box in and out of a rack with feet or bumpers on it is a pain. 
>>>> They often get “lost” early in the instrument’s life. Often it’s a 
>>>> standard process on all gear as it comes into the facility.  All of the 
>>>> un-needed bits and pieces go into a big pile. When the feet (or whatever) 
>>>> are found later in life they may or may not be re-installed correctly. 
>>>> They might not even be the ones that came with the instrument.
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> I am not sure if you are following me. On most (all??) HP kit I have
>>> seen, there are 3 holes at each corner of the bottom, where is
>>> possible to fit feet if one is going to use it on a desktop, rather
>>> than a rack. This unit does not have those holes, so it would be
>>> impossible to fit the usual HP feet on it.
>>> 
>>> Looking around, I have 15 bits of HP kit,  all of which have holes in
>>> the corner for feet. But this 58503A, with the Chinese box, does not
>>> have the holes. I don't know whether the 85053A is supposed to have
>>> them, or whether this is just a flaw in the design of the counterfeit.
>>> 
>>> Dave
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