Thanks for the discussion on this GPSDO. 
I researched the archives on this going back a few months but didn't find 
anything. 
Although I consider myself a newby or novice Time-Nut I do have three other 
GPSDO's I've had a Z3801 running for more than 10 years. 
My interest in the unit in question lies in the need for a light weight unit I 
can use as a stable accurate source for my 24 GHz transverter that I use for my 
rover and contesting efforts. I need something light weight as well as accurate 
and stable with low phase noise and needs to be able to be located on or close 
to a portable tripod. I did order one of James Millers units to fulfill these 
needs. I just thought this may be a much less expensive alternative.
Thanks again for the discussion. 
Happy New Year to all! 

Dave - W6TE> From: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:33:06 -0500
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New GPSDO on EBAY From China
> 
> Hi
> 
> > On Dec 29, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Li Ang <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi
> > One of my friend had one. Here is the test result from him.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Ok, that data is actually more encouraging than the data on the selling site. 
> He ran it long enough to get past the hump in the ADEV curve at 4,000 
> seconds. The blue trace shows that the test setup *can* resolve the data 
> properly. 
> 
> So now the question becomes - what is going on with the filter software in 
> the BG7TBL unit? It’s obviously done differently than the HP filter software. 
> There are a number of people (not me) on the list that have expressed 
> interest in digging into GPSDO firmware.
> 
> Bob
> 
> > 
> > Bob Camp <[email protected]>于2014年12月29日星期一写道:
> >> Hi
> >> 
> >> Ok, well that’s a move forward on this GPSDO. There is a *lot* more data
> > on that listing than there was a month ago.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for digging it up  and posting the link.
> >> 
> >> If you look at the ADEV at 1 second, it’s running at 2.67 x10^-11. That’s
> > all coming from the Erratum Rb that they are using as a reference. At 100
> > seconds the Rb should be around 2.67 x10^-12 and the MV-89 should be about
> > < 2x10^-11. They combine as the square root, so that would be 3.3 ppt or
> > less. The unit is running at 4.8 ppt so the filter is having some impact at
> > that point.
> >> 
> >> Out around 5,000 seconds the unit has a major hump. The Nortel GPSTM has
> > a similar hump, but much closer in. It’s performance at 5K seconds is much
> > better. The Lucent KS boxes beat this part across the entire range. That
> > makes some assumptions, since there is no good ADEV data inside 100 seconds
> > on the plot.
> >> 
> >> The final question about the plot would be - what happens at longer tau?
> > The run was stopped before it really got past the peak in the filter. It
> > would be nice to see some data that at least gets back down to < 1 ppt at
> > the longer tau’s. Without that data it’s unclear how well the whole system
> > is doing. That’s not to say it’s not doing well. It could be doing a great
> > job, there’s just no way to know from the data.
> >> 
> >> ――――
> >> 
> >> My guess is that this is very much like your counter project, just a bit
> > further along. They have a nice looking unit, but are still trying to
> > figure out the bugs and finish up the software …
> >> 
> >> Bob
> >> 
> >>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 6:19 PM, Li Ang <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi
> >>>  This unit is done by BG7TBL. In his store on taobao.com, there is a
> > adev
> >>> chart. Please refrer to this link
> >>> 
> > http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-1278071728.49.XHJlQL&id=42336500072
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 2014-12-29 1:56 GMT+08:00 Dan Rae <[email protected]>:
> >>> 
> >>>> On 12/28/2014 7:25 AM, David Smith wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Hello Friends,
> >>>>> I found this new inexpensive GPSDO on ebay listed from a seller from
> >>>>> China:
> >>>>> 
> >>>> Dave, these have been discussed in the past at some length on this list.
> >>>> I would point out that they use a re-cycled Morion OCXO.  I have had
> > two of
> >>>> these ovens from China; one worked fine, the other has a very high
> > level of
> >>>> spurious outputs.  I would be wary of using these in anything without
> > first
> >>>> testing them thoroughly.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Dan
> >>>> 
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