If anyone has a burning desire for a HP5328 with a volt meter module (and a 
GPIB board) please contact me off list.

Regards
Mark Spencer

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On 2015-04-23, at 3:18 PM, Bob Albert via time-nuts <[email protected]> wrote:

> From your comments, it seems that finding a voltmeter board to add to my 
> 5328A isn't worth the trouble.  I have been looking for one even though I 
> have plenty of voltmeters.  I assume the option allows measurement of the 
> signal inputs but still probably isn't worth all the agony of changing the 
> panel, etc.
> 
> Am I making sense?
> Bob K6DDX 
> 
> 
>     On Thursday, April 23, 2015 12:48 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/23/2015 12:20 AM, VK2DAP wrote:
>> Dear time-nuts,
>> 
>> I have a question about the HP5328A and HP5328B universal counters.
>> 
>> 1) Generally speaking, would it be correct to say that when a product model 
>> number changes from A to B, that represents an improvement or major update 
>> to a product?
>> 
>> 2) I am interested in the "delay" option that is mentioned in the user 
>> manual for the HP5328A (option 040). My question is simple. Why does this 
>> option not feature in the HP5328B, but only as option 040 on the HP5328A?
>> 
> 
> 
> Now you have asked a very interesting question.  Since you
> are new to time-nuts, you probably don't know I worked
> for HP/Agilent/Keysight for 35 years.  It would be
> a gross oversimplification to assume that an A/B change
> is an improvement, although in some cases that may
> be true.  Often it has more to do with certain parts
> becoming unavailable.  You should also know that there
> is typically a 5 year support life after the product
> goes out of production.  It is very common that they
> will increment the suffix to get the 5 year clock
> running so they no longer have to support very old
> instruments.  This was certainly the case with the
> 5061B cesium standard.  The nixie displays were
> unobtainium and we couldn't support the 5061A because
> of this.  I don't know specifically about the 5328A
> vs B.  However, I was the project manager for the
> 5334B counter.  The way that came about was that I
> just happened to notice that there were various design
> aspects of the 5334A that wasted a lot of money.  I
> didn't work in the counters section at the time, but
> nevertheless I annoyed the R&D manager by pointing
> out these money leaks.  I guess he got tired of hearing
> me complain and one day he offered my the job of project
> manager on a 5334B model.  We needed to reduce cost
> because we were losing military contracts to Racal-Dana.
> I changed certain design details in the B model where
> I could save money.  The idea was to simply keep the
> performance the same and not add features.  There were
> many things I inherited from the A model that I left
> alone if I couldn't reduce the cost.  We were also on
> a very tight schedule.  This prevented me from replacing
> the 4 separate microprocessors in the 34A with a single
> one.  (Very long story as to why this was)
> 
> Now to get to your question about why a feature in the
> A version would not carry through to the B version.
> The 5334A had an option of a digital voltmeter, which was
> put in essentially "because we could", but then justified
> after the fact by claiming that customers wanted it
> because some of them ordered the option.  I never thought
> this made sense and used my authority as 5334B project manager
> to get rid of it in the 5334B.  Since HP also sold
> voltmeters, they could always buy a voltmeter from
> our voltmeter division.  There are a bunch of reasons
> why the 5328B would lose a feature that the 5328A had,
> but the point is that this doesn't break any "rule".
> 
> Rick Karlquist N6RK
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