Hi

I do not see it on my 5370’s but that is hardly a conclusive answer to the 
question. There are a number of adjustments involved in aligning the beast. 
There is also the variable of how far off frequency the internal standard is. I 
do not normally use the internal reference on any of my counters for anything 
other than a cleanup oscillator. I seem to have … umm …. errrr …. several … 
GPSDO’s and Rb’s to pick between. There is no real reason to run on the 
internal standard when “something better” is available.

Bob

> On May 14, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Bob Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob,
> The beat note idea occurred to me, as well.  I see the "disturbance in the 
> force" when using the internal clock (10811) of the 5370A, as well as when 
> using the 10811 from the 5335A as the reference.    But, if this were the 
> case, I would think it would be a well known phenomenon.  Assuming you have a 
> 5370A/B, do you see it on your end, or do you just always use a Cs as your 
> reference clock?  I see a lot of discussion about comparing two devices, but 
> never any discussion about the reference clock for the equipment that 
> performs the measurement.
> I suppose I could warm up my spare 34310-T and see what happens when using 
> that as the reference.
> 
> Bob
> 
>      From: Bob Camp <[email protected]>
> To: Bob Stewart <[email protected]>; Discussion of precise time and frequency 
> measurement <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 6:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New 5370A
> 
> Hi
> 
> One of the (many) nice thing(s) about TimeLab is that you can run multiple 
> plots on the same data. Often
> when you see wiggles in one plot, looking at another plot can help you figure 
> out what is going on. 
> 
> The “best guess” when you see wiggles on the left side, is a spur or beat 
> note. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Bob Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I got a new 5370A, so of course I've been running a bunch of tests on it.  
>> In the image linked below, the start channel is my PRS-45A, the stop channel 
>> is my GPSDOe ("e" is for engine) and the ARM channel is fed by the PPS from 
>> my SSR-6Tru.  As you can see in the notes, the test parameters are all the 
>> same, except for the clock source for the 5370A.  As you might guess, my 
>> question is about the blue line, which is where the 5370A uses its internal 
>> 10811 as its clock reference.  Is it normal for tests run like this to have 
>> the left side of the ADEV be such a "wiggle" on the internal reference?  I 
>> had noticed the same thing with the 5335A I've been using up till now and 
>> had just assumed there was a problem with its 10811.  The OCXO in my GSPDO 
>> is a surplus Trimble 34310-T.  It's been running for several weeks, but is 
>> still in retrace.
>> 
>> http://evoria.net/AE6RV/5370A/Test1.png
>> 
>> And kudos to John for Timelab.  It doesn't play well with Wine in Linux, but 
>> that's not terribly surprising, all things considered.
>> 
>> Bob
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