Bob,

It was linked from the article. Some 18 pages of reading. Go and read it. I will when I get the time... can somebody skew my time by skew my NTP? Just read the article, it tells you how to pull it off.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 10/24/2015 03:02 PM, Bob Camp wrote:
Hi

Without the real paper(s) they are referencing, it’s impossible to evaluate 
what they
are saying. In order to actually address their points, it will have to be done 
on a paper
by paper basis.

Bob

On Oct 24, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Florian Teply <[email protected]> wrote:

Am Wed, 21 Oct 2015 22:54:15 -0700
schrieb Rob Seaman <[email protected]>:

Mark Sims said:

Ars Technica just put up a piece on the effects of various attacks
on NTP with a link to the original paper.

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/10/new-attacks-on-network-time-protocol-can-defeat-https-and-create-chaos/


The Network Time Foundation (through Harlan Stenn’s hard work) has
already released a patch synchronized with the publication of the
referenced paper from Boston University:

        http://nwtime.org/ntf-releases-ntp-security-patches-ntp-4-2-8p4/

Many of the comments on the Ars Technica piece are quite naive
regarding timekeeping issues. This reflects an ongoing need for
public education that Time-nuts as well as NTF can help supply.

In my opinion, it would be interesting to know if other implementations
are affected as well.
Until now, I've come across the ntp mentioned above, maintained by
the network time foundation.
But there's also openntpd, maintained by the OpenBSD guys, and ntimed
by PHK, which IIRC both claim to address security. Likely there afre
even more out there...

But if I read that article on ars technica correctly, it looks like it
is something inherent to the ntp protocol itself and the definitions it
makes.

Poul-Henning, would you care to comment on that for ntimed?

Best regards,
Florian
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