Hi Mike,

The time rate does remain the same - at the device.  The problem is the idea 
that it is the hyperfine transitions that determine the time.  They are only a 
measurement of the time in that environment.  So, if the rate of time is 
different at two locations, you will never see it *at* either location, because 
the clocks will run at the proper speed in either location; even though the 
rates are actually different between the two locations.  Since you are actually 
*at* that location, you can't tell that time runs at a different rate.  It is 
only by comparing the clocks in two different locations that you can determine 
the difference in space-time between these two locations.
If you are falling into a black hole, your watch will not appear to slow down 
to you.  You will still experience time as if you were sitting on your doorstep 
at home.  (Ignoring the effects of spaghettification, or course.)  But 
generations of people back on earth would live and die for each tick of your 
watch.

Bob
      From: Mike Feher <[email protected]>
 To: 'Bob Stewart' <[email protected]>; 'Discussion of precise time and frequency 
measurement' <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 12:10 PM
 Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Einstein Special on PBS
   
Bob -

Thanks for attempting to make me see the light. But, I still do not. You said 
it yourself that hyperfine transitions remain the same. Since "time" on these 
device are derived from these transitions, they should also remain the same. I 
agree, from a relativistic point of vie the time will be different. I am just 
not convinced that using these types of clocks will demonstrate that. Thanks - 
Mike 

Mike B. Feher, EOZ Inc.
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