On 12/1/15 6:41 PM, Bob Camp wrote:
Hi

So back to the question …. does a 70 (ish) MHz fancy filter really buy you
anything ahead of the main box? If you will be multiply band limited ahead
of the mixer (antenna and saw), the contribution of the 70 MHz filter will
likely be minimal. Note that I’m comparing a filter that costs money to a
L-C tank that is essentially free rather than truly no filter at all.

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One other thing to consider - Most antennas have a *lot* of gain in them.
Back when I took the course, the standard advice was to put as little gain
ahead of your mixer as possible. It’s all tied up in the impact gain has on
the distortion products. That also would drive you towards a filter ahead
of the mixer approach.

Bob




Do you have strong interfering signals close by that might be an issue.. 70 MHz is in the low VHF TV band. These days, in the US, TV is all digital, so you don't have that big carrier to worry about, but a lot of GPS receivers that use 1 bit ADC are really hit hard by a narrow band signal that is big enough to "capture" the sampler.

JPL's receivers use a fairly broad L-band filter (covers L1, L2, and L5) before the LNA, then narrower filters for each subband before the sampler. Strong L-band signals are a real problem if they cause intermods in the LNA. In space, that's not usually an issue, but in terrestrial testing of these receivers it is. And in receivers designed for precision geodesy or timing, they typically hate to have narrow band filters, because of the delay through the filter.


They're direct sampling, so conversion to IF isn't an issue for JPL, but if you are doing a down conversion, if you have a strong L-band interferer that is either generating intermods, or is at the image frequency, you might run into an problem.

A


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