Hi

They were not cheap beasts to keep running. The cal process was an “HP only” 
thing and when you looked at what came back each year, any data you took over 
the last few months needed to be re-evaluated. After a while, people started 
poke into this and that. They would do a wonderful job sitting in a constant 
temperature bath. Like any crystal, they aged and this created some level of 
drift (well beyond  0.0001C per year). The more troublesome problem was 
hysteresis. If you cycled the probe between temperatures, it might take a day 
to get back “close” to the original temperature (but still not quite to 
0.0001C). The final gotcha was mechanical shock bumps in normal use. Apparently 
this also created some offsets as well.

All of that added up to a frequency vs temperature curve that “moved around” at 
a level well past 0.0001C. Each time you sent it back, the coefficients got 
re-modeled. Use if for a while and the numbers don’t match the probe so much 
anymore. Just as with a SPRT, a triple point cell really needed to be part of 
the setup. For whatever reason, HP backed out of the business rather than get 
more complex. Fluke took a different approach (they bought Hart)  and stayed in 
the business. There are certainly a number of other outfits making fancy 
temperature gear.  

Bob


> On Mar 11, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Alan Ambrose <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I hope this is still relevant and not too off-topic...but since it involves 
> crystals and tempco...
> 
> Quartz thermometers (e.g. the HP 2804A) with their 'linear cut' crystals and 
> '0.0001C resolution' seem to have been a thing from the mid-60's to the 
> mid-80's:
> 
> http://www.hparchive.com/Journals/HPJ-1965-03.pdf
> 
> There still appear to be some manufacturers making the crystals:
> 
> http://www.statek.com/products/pdf/Temp%20Sensor%2010162%20Rev%20B.pdf
> 
> Anyone know why they died out? Did a better technology replace them?
> 
> TIA, Alan
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