Hi

The way it’s normally found is in a control loop. The fact that the loop is 
“dead” for 
50 or 500 steps and then suddenly does something is what you quickly notice. If 
you are
manually tuning a loop, it does show up.

Bob

> On May 7, 2016, at 7:26 AM, Azelio Boriani <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> How can anyone of us tell wheater a tuning step is or not at the level
> of 10 at -15? Maybe only TVB can...
> Are you sure that the 50 times greater than is not related to your
> measure instead of the real capability of the 5680A?
> 
> On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 6:51 AM, Nick Sayer via time-nuts
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I got a second 5680 in the mail the other day and so far my firmware isn’t 
>> bricking it, so.. yay.
>> 
>> A couple of odd things have turned up, though.
>> 
>> 1. So far as I can experimentally tell, the tuning step on this unit is 50 
>> times larger than the 17E-15 quoted by FEI. Either the tuning curve is not 
>> linear or the tuning range is not what they claim (or both). I’d like to get 
>> a feel for whether the standard deviation of the mid-range (near zero) 
>> tuning step is. Is it closer to what I’m observing or FEI’s spec? The answer 
>> will instruct me on how to pick the PLL gain constant for the firmware.
>> 
>> 2. Directly clocking an AVR from the 5680A is unreliable prior to lock. I 
>> haven’t exhaustively examined the startup behavior of the 5680, but power-up 
>> reset of my GPS board used to not happen a lot of the time, and manual reset 
>> was required. The AVR datasheet says that as long as the clock frequency is 
>> kept within 2% from cycle to cycle that that’s ok, but either this 5680A 
>> isn’t doing that or the AVR datasheet is wrong. Fortunately, there’s a 
>> software workaround: fuse the controller for the internal 8 MHz oscillator 
>> and switch over (I was surprised to learn that changing system clock sources 
>> on the fly is an option) to the 5680 only once a physics lock is indicated 
>> by the lock pin. That seems to be acceptably reliable. My purpose in 
>> mentioning it is to see if anyone has examined the pre-lock behavior of the 
>> 5680 (I understand it’s not a particularly interesting question) to see 
>> exactly how jumpy it really is before it locks.
>> 
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