Hi Tom,

Nice photos. Looks like you guys had a great time.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 05/21/2016 09:09 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote:
Mike,

For the episode itself it was probably unnecessary to show that zeroing or 
syncing step. But of course it's important to me, the original doubting Thomas, 
and is covered in all the data analysis.

For you, or others who want to read more about the experiment, scroll down to 
the time dilation plots:

http://leapsecond.com/great2016a/photos.htm

/tvb

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Feher" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; "'Discussion of precise time and frequency 
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Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV),


I too enjoyed the show as well as Tom's part in it. However call me "doubting Thomas" or 
in this case Mike, I have the same concerns as expressed by "ws". Also, an initial 
comparison of the two used, at low altitude, to show an unmeasurable difference would have been 
helpful. All that aside it was great, and, I am not smart enough to understand it all anyway. 
Regards - Mike

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-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ws at Yahoo 
via time-nuts
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 11:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV),

Tom
Impressive. Nice job.

How would one go about to prove beyond a doubt in that experiment that 18ns of 
phase shift in 24 hrs was truly caused by freq offset due to Relativity and not by 
some other combination of environment and handling issues that effected phase 
&/or freq once the identical clocks where separated and operating at different 
temperatures, pressures, elevations, vibration, tilt angles, power supply voltages, 
airflow, cosmic rays, ozone, or some other unmeasured things that may be effecting 
the results?

To increase  *gravity* a lot more than a 7,000 ft altitude change, and without 
changing the environment variables, could one set of the CS clocks be put on a 
centrifuge, such as a fast spinning merry-go-round at a local park?

Anyone know what the 2G turn over effect, TC, etc, is of portable CS standards? 
Ideally they should all be zero, but probable aren't.

ws



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