Hi You are indeed effectively either doing a startup or contracting with somebody already in the business. In a lot of ways, contracting this out might be the easier approach. The trick there will be having enough business to make it attractive to them.
Bob > On Nov 4, 2016, at 11:21 AM, Scott Stobbe <[email protected]> wrote: > > You will also share the same challenges as Touchstone semi did, no one > wanted to stick their neck out to design in a little startup. > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Bob Camp <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Not many people have had exposure to Rb’s or Cs standards actually being >> built. That leaves a major gap in who you can call when you run into a >> problem. >> >> Until you have tried to build one it’s not at all clear just how much >> “missing information” there >> is in all those papers. It’s very much like the semiconductor business. >> Lots of >> information is published. There are indeed lots of gaps. At some point you >> must >> build tooling and get it all working. >> >> Again, we are talking about a device that is at least as good as a 5065 >> and not >> something that just barely works. If you *could* build something better >> than a 5065 >> for a thousand or two dollars, it would be on the market today. >> >> Bob >> >>> On Nov 3, 2016, at 6:34 PM, Attila Kinali <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 16:54:24 -0400 >>> Bob Camp <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> If you look at a modern CPU as “just a handful of sand and some stuff”, >> it seems >>>> pretty easy to build one in the kitchen after an hour or two of setup. >> When you dig >>>> into the nasty details the line costs rapidly spiral off into the >> stratosphere. Atomic >>>> standards are not quite as complex, but there still is more than just a >> little custom >>>> equipment involved. $1M sounds a bit on the low side of what it might >> take. >>> >>> >>> Not necessarily. There is a large corpus of knowledge available on >>> how to build vapor cells standards and what is a good idea and what >>> isn't. Most of it is documented in papers of the PTTI, EFTF and IFCS. >>> The former two are freely available (for PTTI until 2010, but that >>> should be good enough). Getting access to those papers behind a >>> paywall, you only need to know someone with access to a university. >>> (not for PTTI post 2010 though, ION has quite anal access rules) >>> >>> Additionally, the people in the time and frequeny community are very >>> open to discussion and exchange of knowledge. You can almost always >>> just walk up to someone and ask questions with a high chance of getting >>> not only answers but help in how to proceede. >>> >>> Tapping into this knowhow would avoid the need to try out the whole >>> solution space and concentrate on the few parts that are unkown or >>> not well enough understood and optimize those. And by doing so safe >>> a lot of money. >>> >>> Attila Kinali >>> >>> -- >>> Malek's Law: >>> Any simple idea will be worded in the most complicated way. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
