Hello Time Nuts,  I have been on the group and have promoted it to other folks 
for a while but this may be my first post here.

I am microwave amateur radio operator and I have question to pose relating to 
the use of GPSDO's with amateur radio for microwave communication.

First, the more generic question.  A friend was discussing using a eBay 
purchased Trimble 57963-D for providing a 10 MHz refrence for his portable 
microwave station  (primarly at 10GHz).  He wants a clean high stability 10 MHz 
refrence mainly to lock the station LO. First I think a GPSDO is overkill for 
this application and I am thinking that a good surplus ovenized crystal 
oscillator should get him to within a few Hz after warm up and a Rb could do 
better but may have short term stability that may degrade phase noise of the 
LO.  I am concerned that a GPSDO is not designed for portable operations.  
Moving it should probably force a new site  survey which may take a day or more 
 to complete before it goes into disciplining mode so you would loose any 
potential benefit of a GPSDO by moving around frequently.  If he wants to do 
this I think he should leave it connected at his home location for an extended 
time (several days at least), then when he want to go portable (roving), he 
should
  disconnect the GPS antenna entirely to force the unit into holdover mode 
maintain continuous power with battery backup which should maintain the 
internal OCXO very close to the target frequence and allow the holdover 
algorithm to compensate for OCXO for aging and best it can.  I would guess that 
if he chooses to used the GPSDO with the antenna connected it would probably 
never exit the site survey mode and you would have the output default to the 
last known good DAC value when it was been disciplined so it would be operating 
as a OCXO only (although potentially starting from a very accurate starting 
point, if it had been in use at a fixed location for a good while) before going 
portable.  Is this a correct view of the situation?  Any recommendations?

I also know of a fellow who has developed some excellent open source Linux 
software to drive an Ettus Research USRP microwave SDR transceiver for amateur 
radio microwave applications.  His code also has features to calculate antenna 
baring and with other available code compensates for satellite Doppler shift 
and/or synchronize digital communication modes using the GPS coordinates and 
timing data.  He has a built in interface for a Trimble Thunderbolt for this 
purpose.  I think it also might be a better solution to use a OCXO for 10 MHz 
and a cheap USB GPS sensor for location?  Is there a cheep USB GPS that 
provides PPS?  Any recommendations?

I have seen simpler GPS controlled 10 MHz sources like the Miller design that 
divides down a 10 MHz ref and compares it to a 10 KHz output from a Jupiter T 
GPS to tweak the ref freq that may or may not be better suited to this 
application as it may add phase noise to the LO but would be more real time in 
it's GPS correction to the reference frequency.

Regards,


Norman Eric Haskell

KC4YOE

Keller, TX USA
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