Hi Paul, and thanks for the reply!  You might be hearing more from me than you 
want now, haha.  
I'm aware of the wwvb issue, assuming a costas loop or some other mod is very 
doable in either unit.  
Interesting on the manual, I really hate to spend $20 for the digital copy 
available on eBay before knowing what's up with this one, but sounds like I 
might not have a choice.  Right now my main question is regarding boards within 
that sealed off box in the right rear corner-- Only 3 or four of the 7 cards 
are present, hopefully it's just options this unit doesn't have but I do not 
know.  
The 117a amp.  Iirc, someone jacked it all up and broke one of two of the RF 
transformers, possibly amongst other things?  Those goofy pentode nuvistors are 
all shot too.  Been a while since I've looked at it.  
Is there any stark difference between these two u units, that you'd say one is 
just plain better than the other?  I have the active antenna for the 117a, so 
that's one problem solved if I am able to get that one running.  Naturally 
those nuvistors are shot too.
Regards,Chris 

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-------- Original message --------From: paul swed <[email protected]> Date: 
5/8/17  3:56 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: kc9ieq <[email protected]>, Discussion of 
precise time and frequency measurement <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 
[time-nuts] Fluke 207 VLF receiver info 
ChrisI know the 207 well. I have one up and operating just fine.Several items 
they do not tolerate the new WWVB bpsk signal at all the same for your 117. 
Though the 117 at least seem to do semi ok. Amazingly, it really should not.I 
just had to re-cap all the small electrolytics all of them were seriously off 
and low in value. Thats after many years of service. For me 10 years and since 
its 1970s technology some place else. The caps really were not a huge cost but 
a lot of work to change them.The 207 actually is a better receiver then the 117 
so its worth it.I also replaced the fried audio amp with a modern chip design 
and disabled the phase accumulator. It will drive you nuts with the click.
Bad news on the manual though I have one and it really can not be copied. Its 
whats called a blue line the prints are large and multi page in size. Still 
smells like ammonia. Its becoming very delicate with age.
On all of my wwvb receivers I use cheatn d-psk-r to get rid of the bpsk and 
that allows them to work like they used to.
On the 117 whats up with the rf stage? I just had to re-tube and recap mine. 
Cathode bypass. Wasn't that hard. There is a guy near boston that has really 
good NOS and at reasonable prices. Not sure if some one hacked your unit or 
perhaps lightning. But the TRF is rock solid with great gain. HP nice.
Good luckPaulWB8TSL
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:24 PM, kc9ieq via time-nuts <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all, stupid Yahoo apparently caused me to be bounced from the list, glad to 
be back in.

Just picked up a Fluke 207 (no suffix?) VLF receiver/comparator, and would like 
to do some reading on it before putting any time or money into a rebuild.  From 
my recent 332B overhaul, every single electrolytic in this thing will be 
replaced if it's going to see active duty again.  I suspect it may possibly be 
a better unit than my HP 117A, which has a really messed up amplifier requiring 
replacement or a parts donor.  There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of info 
about this 207 online, hoping perhaps someone has a digital copy of the manual 
which could be emailed?  This one is also missing the top and bottom covers, if 
anybody happens to have a parts set!

Regards, Chris 





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