For popping off the lid, a few threaded holes in the lid would be nice.  Insert 
screws and let them push against the body and push the lid off.


-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of ed breya
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:08 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Machining some aluminum help!

This is the first time I've looked at time-nuts in about a month, and I noticed 
the run about this project. I'm very late to the party, but have a few 
suggestions that may help - if it's not too late. I quickly scanned many of the 
posts, and agree with many of the ideas. Please forgive if my suggestions are 
redundant to what's already been said.

First, I assume that the aluminum box is a simple extrusion, so it will likely 
be a soft alloy that will tend to gall horribly with machining - especially bad 
for anything that needs high precision. With these kinds of material, go big, 
starting with bigger fasteners. With 1/4" walls, you can easily up it to 6-32 
or 8-32, as long as the holes are fairly shallow, and you can jig it up for 
good centering and plumbness. With
4-40 and blind holes, you're just asking for trouble - especially taking a 
chance 40 times. The tap drill will be quite skinny, and prone to deform and 
wander as it goes in, and can easily be snapped off when it stalls due to the 
galling - and that's just the drilling stage - the tapping will be worse.

Bigger threads give you a chance to get it done with fewer fasteners and holes, 
and much less grief. The thread depth should allow for at least one 
pitch-diameter of penetration for strength, but preferably two or more, so you 
don't have to worry about finding exact right screw lengths that won't bottom 
out. Depending on the thickness of the end plates, you could get down to two or 
three fasteners per side to hold the small pressure needed.

If you're using a drill press, punch mark the hole centers, then use a center 
drill to make the pilot holes for the tap drill. If you're freehand drilling, 
put the piece on the floor and drill downward, keeping it as plumb as possible. 
Definitely use an oil or other lubricant for all the drilling and tapping 
operations.

For sealing, I'd recommend against fancy o-ring features and such - these are 
also harder to machine cleanly in soft aluminum, and add unnecessary 
complexity. If the end caps need regular remove and replace operations, then go 
with a pliable gasket, have more fasteners to get more uniform compression, and 
make the threads deeper so they'll last longer. If the sealing is one-time, or 
seldom needs to be broken, I'd recommend using a gasket sealing goop that will 
work fine with few fasteners and even rough surface finish. My favorite is 
Permatex #2 "Form-A-Gasket Sealant," which I've used for all sorts of stuff 
over fifty years (back then it was Radiator Specialties brand). Don't use a 
silicone goop unless you want to spend a lot of time scraping off the old stuff 
if it needs to be opened. If you do use a goop, it's a good idea to machine in 
features for prying the lids off, such as gasket-plane screwdriver slots, or 
extra tapped through-holes in line with the mounting holes on of the l
 id.

Ed
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