Figure 5 in http://www.wenzel.com/wp-content/uploads/Sub-pico-Multiplier.pdf
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Bruce
> On 13 July 2019 at 05:23 Bob kb8tq <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> If you do go the TEC route, plan on a fairly big power source :). There is a 
> Wenzel doc on doing a TEC based enclosure using a couple of die cast 
> boxes. The pictures don’t show what they used to drive the beast so part of 
> it would still be up to you. My search skills and their web site are not quite
> compatible so no link …. sorry !!!
> 
> Bob
> 
> > On Jul 12, 2019, at 12:12 PM, Javier Herrero <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > A TEC is good if you want to maintain the resistors at 25ºC, that seems the 
> > zero TC point for some precision low TCR resistors (for example, the Vishay 
> > VFCP or VSMP series)
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Javier
> > 
> > On 12/7/19 10:06, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
> >> On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 at 08:07, Bernd Neubig <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> AXTAL has a miniature oven for heating precision resistors or other
> >>> components to a constant temperature. It is housed in a small DIP8 
> >>> package.
> >>> See attached AXR135 data sheet.
> >>> Optionally this device can be offered unsealed, ready for inserting the
> >>> component by yourself
> >>> 
> >>> Regards
> >>> Bernd
> >> 
> >> The resistors I am using are made by Caddock, are 1 M ohm & 10 M ohm, 0.01%
> >> tolerance and 5 ppm / deg C. They are much too large to fit in a DIP8
> >> package. A quick check with a ruler indicates that the 10 M ohm is 38 x 12
> >> mm and the 1 M ohm is 19 x 10 mm.
> >> 
> >> A quick photograph shows this half finished project. Unfortunately, even
> >> before I have finished it, I am wishing I had done a better job. However,
> >> my original reason for doing this was to check the stability of a data
> >> acquisition unit before sending it to Keysight. I think this will be good
> >> enough for that, but I could certainly have done a job with some thought.
> >> 
> >> The thermocouple is just meant to be a temperature sensor that dissipates
> >> no power. A thermistor or RTD buried in the polystyrene would have just got
> >> hot. The resistors should not get hot, as the power dissipated will be
> >> under 1 uW.
> >> 
> >> I also intend putting in a 100 M ohm resistor, but the specification of
> >> that is much poorer (5%, 100 ppm/ deg C. )
> >> 
> >> I partially read the paper mentioned. I note that the authors used a thermo
> >> electric cooler (TEC) as they wanted get low temperatures. I assume that
> >> for crystals or resistors dissipating little heat, a TEC would be
> >> unnecessary, and just a resistor acting as a heater would be fine. But will
> >> read some of the references. Obviously for controlling a crystal
> >> oscillator, or my resistor, stability is most important, whereas for the
> >> authors of the paper, stability was not their major concern.
> >> 
> >>> --
> >> Dr. David Kirkby,
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